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Date:   Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:50:09 -0700
From:   Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy 
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 1/5] x86/tdx: Add TDX Guest attestation interface
 driver

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the review.

On 6/24/22 9:51 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 6/8/22 19:52, Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan wrote:
>> TDREPORT can only be verified on local platform as the MAC key is bound
>> to the platform. To support remote verification of the TDREPORT, TDX
>> leverages Intel SGX Quote Enclave (QE) to verify the TDREPORT locally
>> and convert it to a remote verifiable Quote.
>>
>> After getting the TDREPORT, the second step of the attestation process
>> is to send it to the QE to generate the Quote. TDX doesn't support SGX
>> inside the TD, so the QE can be deployed in the host, or in another
>> legacy VM with SGX support. How to send the TDREPORT to QE and receive
>> the Quote is implementation and deployment specific.
> 
> On high-level comment: this whole series is quite agnostic about what is
> actually attested.  On some level, I guess it doesn't matter.  But, it
> makes me a bit uneasy.  There needs to be at least *some* kind of claim
> about that somewhere, preferably a sentence in the cover letter and
> sentence or two here.

We are attesting that the given TD Guest is secure and trustworthy, and
the remote server requesting attestation can safely transfer the secrets.

Are you looking for something like the above?

Or you want to talk about the details involved (like TDREPORT hash
details)?

If it is not what you are looking for, then maybe I misunderstood your
question. Can you please elaborate?

> 
> Second, how can someone test this code?  It appears that they need to
> assemble a veritable Rube Goldberg machine.  The least we could do is
> have a selftest that just calls the ioctl() and makes sure that
> something halfway sane comes out of it.

My initial submission included a test app. But I removed it later to
reduce the review load. I thought to submit the test app once feature
support patches are merged.

https://lore.kernel.org/all/9247fade9db5ae6eb183b2f92fdedb898282376a.1648664666.git.sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@intel.com/

If you prefer, I can add it back to the next submission with the latest changes.

> 
>> In such
>> case, since REPORTDATA is a secret, using sysfs to share it is insecure
>> compared to sending it via IOCTL.
> 
> Huh?  How is sysfs "insecure"?

REPORTDATA (input) we pass to the Module call might come from attestation
service as a per session unique ID.  If it is shared via sysfs, there is
a possibility for untrusted software to read it and trigger some form of
reply attack. So in this context, sysfs is insecure compared to IOCTL
approach. You can find the related discussion in,

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/b8eadd3079101a2cf93ee87d36dbedf93d8a2725.camel@intel.com/

> 
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Generate TDREPORT using "TDG.MR.REPORT" TDCALL.
>> +	 *
>> +	 * Get the TDREPORT using REPORTDATA as input. Refer to
>> +	 * section 22.3.3 TDG.MR.REPORT leaf in the TDX Module 1.0
>> +	 * Specification for detailed information.
>> +	 */
>> +	ret = __tdx_module_call(TDX_GET_REPORT, virt_to_phys(tdreport),
>> +				virt_to_phys(reportdata), 0, 0, NULL);
> 
> One of those 0's is a "Report sub type".  Those bits in the module call
> are presumably because it won't *always* be zero.  But, if there's ever
> a new report type, we'll need another user/kernel ABI.  That doesn't
> seem great.
> 
> The TDX module spec doesn't even give a name to "sub report type 0".
> That is not super helpful for deciding what it *means*.
> 
> Right now, the entire ABI is basically:
> 
> 	ret = ioctl(TDX_GET_REPORT, &buffer);
> 
> That _implies_ a ton of stuff:
> 
> 	1. report sub type 0
> 	2. a specific input length REPORTDATA
> 	3. a specific output length
> 
> I don't want to over-engineer this thing, but it would make a lot of
> sense to me to feed the ioctl() with something like this:
> 
> struct tdx_report
> {
> 	u8 report_sub_type;
> 	u64 report_input_data;
> 	u64 report_input_data_len;
> 
> 	u64 report_output_data;
> 	u64 report_output_data_len;
> }
> 
> That makes *everything* explicit.  It makes it utterly clear what goes
> where, *AND* it makes userspace declare it.

Ok. Parameter to handle subtype makes sense. But regarding the input and
output length, currently there is no indication in specification that it
will change and there is no way to pass it in the module call. So do you
still prefer to add parameters for it?

> 
> But, you have:
> 
>> +/**
>> + * struct tdx_report_req: Get TDREPORT using REPORTDATA as input.
>> + *
>> + * @reportdata : User-defined 64-Byte REPORTDATA to be included into
>> + *		 TDREPORT. Typically it can be some nonce provided by
>> + *		 attestation service, so the generated TDREPORT can be
>> + *		 uniquely verified.
>> + * @tdreport   : TDREPORT output from TDCALL[TDG.MR.REPORT] of size
>> + *		 TDX_REPORT_LEN.
>> + *
>> + * Used in TDX_CMD_GET_REPORT IOCTL request.
>> + */
>> +struct tdx_report_req {
>> +	union {
>> +		__u8 reportdata[TDX_REPORTDATA_LEN];
>> +		__u8 tdreport[TDX_REPORT_LEN];
>> +	};
>> +};
>> +
> 
> and a bunch of code copying in and out of this structure:
> 
>> +static long tdx_get_report(void __user *argp)
>> +{
>> +	void *reportdata = NULL, *tdreport = NULL;
> ...
>> +	/* Copy REPORTDATA from the user buffer */
>> +	if (copy_from_user(reportdata, argp, TDX_REPORTDATA_LEN)) {
>> +		ret = -EFAULT;
>> +		goto out;
>> +	}
> 
> But none of that code even bothers to *use* the structure!

I have created that struct mainly to document the ABI details for the
userspace clarity (like input and output). Since the length of the input
and output is defined as macro, it worked fine for driver implementation.
I am fine with modifying the code to use it. Please let me know if you
prefer it.

> 
> What's with the union?  Are you really just trying to save 64 bytes of
> space?  Is that worth it?

Makes sense. I will change it to separate variables.

> 
> How many of these "drivers" are we going to need which are thinly veiled
> ioctl()s that are only TDX module call wrappers?

-- 
Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
Linux Kernel Developer

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