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Date:   Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:00:41 +0200
From:   Lukas Bulwahn <lukas.bulwahn@...il.com>
To:     Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@...il.com>
Cc:     Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Federico Vaga <federico.vaga@...a.pv.it>,
        Alex Shi <alexs@...nel.org>,
        Yanteng Si <siyanteng@...ngson.cn>,
        Hu Haowen <src.res@...il.cn>,
        "open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-doc-tw-discuss@...ts.sourceforge.net,
        Jean Delvare <jdelvare@...e.com>,
        Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>,
        linux-hwmon@...r.kernel.org,
        kernel-janitors <kernel-janitors@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 06/11] docs: process: remove outdated submitting-drivers.rst

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 3:21 AM Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@...il.com> wrote:
>
> On 6/27/22 22:18, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> >  There are numerous sources of information on Linux kernel development and
> >  related topics.  First among those will always be the Documentation
> > -directory found in the kernel source distribution.  The top-level :ref:`process/howto.rst <process_howto>`
> > -file is an important starting point; :ref:`process/submitting-patches.rst <submittingpatches>`
> > -and :ref:`process/submitting-drivers.rst  <submittingdrivers>`
> > -are also something which all kernel developers should
> > -read.  Many internal kernel APIs are documented using the kerneldoc
> > -mechanism; "make htmldocs" or "make pdfdocs" can be used to generate those
> > -documents in HTML or PDF format (though the version of TeX shipped by some
> > -distributions runs into internal limits and fails to process the documents
> > -properly).
> > +directory found in the kernel source distribution.  Start with the
> > +top-level :ref:`process/howto.rst <process_howto>`; also read
> > +:ref:`process/submitting-patches.rst <submittingpatches>`. Many internal
> > +kernel APIs are documented using the kerneldoc mechanism; "make htmldocs"
> > +or "make pdfdocs" can be used to generate those documents in HTML or PDF
> > +format (though the version of TeX shipped by some distributions runs into
> > +internal limits and fails to process the documents properly).
> >
>
> Did you mean "beware that TeX distribution version as shipped by distributions
> may fail to properly generate the documents"? I have never tried pdfdocs,
> since the dependency requirement can be huge (hundreds of MB needed to
> download packages), so I can't tell whether the phrase is relevant.
>

I only touched this sentence with 'make pdfdocs' above to reformat the
paragraph after deleting the reference to submitting-drivers. Maybe
the statement on make pdfdocs is outdated already or we should refer
to the documentation build page instead?

> > -  :ref:`Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst <submittingpatches>` and :ref:`Documentation/process/submitting-drivers.rst <submittingdrivers>`
> > -    These files describe in explicit detail how to successfully create
> > +  :ref:`Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst <submittingpatches>`
> > +    This file describes in explicit detail how to successfully create
> >      and send a patch, including (but not limited to):
> >
>
> Maybe "This document" instead of file?
>

Either 'this file' or 'this document' fits for me. I have just been
conservative here: It was 'These files' (written by the original
author) and after deleting the second reference, it is just 'this
file'.

If there is no strong opinion, I would leave this as-is.

> > @@ -12,9 +12,8 @@ This document contains a large number of suggestions in a relatively terse
> >  format.  For detailed information on how the kernel development process
> >  works, see Documentation/process/development-process.rst. Also, read
> >  Documentation/process/submit-checklist.rst
> > -for a list of items to check before submitting code.  If you are submitting
> > -a driver, also read Documentation/process/submitting-drivers.rst; for device
> > -tree binding patches, read
> > +for a list of items to check before submitting code.
> > +For device tree binding patches, read
> >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/submitting-patches.rst.
>
> The hunk above is OK.
>
> --
> An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara

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