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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 12:16:45 +0800
From: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@...el.com>
To: Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@...edance.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
Josh Don <joshdon@...gle.com>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@....com>,
"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@....com>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] sched/fair: skip busy cores in SIS search
On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 03:58:55PM +0800, Abel Wu wrote:
>
> On 6/27/22 6:13 PM, Abel Wu Wrote:
> >
> > On 6/24/22 11:30 AM, Chen Yu Wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > > > @@ -9273,8 +9319,40 @@ find_idlest_group(struct
> > > > > > sched_domain *sd, struct task_struct *p, int this_cpu)
> > > > > > static void sd_update_state(struct lb_env *env,
> > > > > > struct sd_lb_stats *sds)
> > > > > > {
> > > > > > - if (sds->sd_state == sd_has_icpus &&
> > > > > > !test_idle_cpus(env->dst_cpu))
> > > > > > - set_idle_cpus(env->dst_cpu, true);
> > > > > > + struct sched_domain_shared *sd_smt_shared = env->sd->shared;
> > > > > > + enum sd_state new = sds->sd_state;
> > > > > > + int this = env->dst_cpu;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > + /*
> > > > > > + * Parallel updating can hardly contribute accuracy to
> > > > > > + * the filter, besides it can be one of the burdens on
> > > > > > + * cache traffic.
> > > > > > + */
> > > > > > + if (cmpxchg(&sd_smt_shared->updating, 0, 1))
> > > > > > + return;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > + /*
> > > > > > + * There is at least one unoccupied cpu available, so
> > > > > > + * propagate it to the filter to avoid false negative
> > > > > > + * issue which could result in lost tracking of some
> > > > > > + * idle cpus thus throughupt downgraded.
> > > > > > + */
> > > > > > + if (new != sd_is_busy) {
> > > > > > + if (!test_idle_cpus(this))
> > > > > > + set_idle_cpus(this, true);
> > > > > > + } else {
> > > > > > + /*
> > > > > > + * Nothing changes so nothing to update or
> > > > > > + * propagate.
> > > > > > + */
> > > > > > + if (sd_smt_shared->state == sd_is_busy)
> > > > > > + goto out;
> > > > > > + }
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > + sd_update_icpus(this, sds->idle_cpu);
> > > > > I wonder if we could further enhance it to facilitate idle CPU scan.
> > > > > For example, can we propagate the idle CPUs in smt domain,
> > > > > to its parent
> > > > > domain in a hierarchic sequence, and finally to the LLC
> > > > > domain. If there is
> > > >
> > > > In fact, it was my first try to cache the unoccupied cpus in SMT
> > > > shared domain, but the overhead of cpumask ops seems like a major
> > > > stumbling block.
> > > >
> > > > > a cluster domain between SMT and LLC domain, the cluster
> > > > > domain idle CPU filter
> > > > > could benefit from this mechanism.
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220609120622.47724-3-yangyicong@hisilicon.com/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Putting SIS into a hierarchical pattern is good for cache locality.
> > > > But I don't think multi-level filter is appropriate since it could
> > > > bring too much cache traffic in SIS,
> > > Could you please elaborate a little more about the cache traffic? I
> > > thought we
> > > don't save the unoccupied cpus in SMT shared domain, but to store it
> > > in middle
> > > layer shared domain, say, cluster->idle_cpus, this would reduce
> > > cache write
> > > contention compared to writing to llc->idle_cpus directly, because a
> > > smaller
> > > set of CPUs share the idle_cpus filter. Similarly, SIS can only scan
> > > the cluster->idle_cpus
> > > first, without having to query the llc->idle_cpus. This looks like
> > > splitting
> > > a big lock into fine grain small lock.
> >
> > I'm afraid I didn't quite follow.. Did you mean replace the LLC filter
> > with multiple cluster filters? Then I agree with what you suggested
> > that the contention would be reduced. But there are other concerns:
> >
> > a. Is it appropriate to fake an intermediate sched_domain if
> > cluster level doesn't available? How to identify the proper
> > size of the faked sched_domain?
> >
> > b. The SIS path might touch more cachelines (multiple cluster
> > filters). I'm not sure how much is the impact.
> >
> > Whatever, this seems worth a try. :)
> >
>
> After a second thought, maybe it's a similar case of enabling SNC?
> I benchmarked with SNC disabled, so the LLC is relatively big. This
> time I enabled SNC on the same machine mentioned in cover letter, to
> make the filter more fine grained. Please see the following result.
>
> a) hackbench-process-pipes
>
> Amean 1 0.4380 ( 0.00%) 0.4250 * 2.97%*
> Amean 4 0.6123 ( 0.00%) 0.6153 ( -0.49%)
> Amean 7 0.7693 ( 0.00%) 0.7217 * 6.20%*
> Amean 12 1.0730 ( 0.00%) 1.0723 ( 0.06%)
> Amean 21 1.8540 ( 0.00%) 1.8817 ( -1.49%)
> Amean 30 2.8147 ( 0.00%) 2.7297 ( 3.02%)
> Amean 48 4.6280 ( 0.00%) 4.4923 * 2.93%*
> Amean 79 8.0897 ( 0.00%) 7.8773 ( 2.62%)
> Amean 110 10.5320 ( 0.00%) 10.1737 ( 3.40%)
> Amean 141 13.0260 ( 0.00%) 12.4953 ( 4.07%)
> Amean 172 15.5093 ( 0.00%) 14.3697 * 7.35%*
> Amean 203 17.9633 ( 0.00%) 16.7853 * 6.56%*
> Amean 234 20.2327 ( 0.00%) 19.2020 * 5.09%*
> Amean 265 22.1203 ( 0.00%) 21.3353 ( 3.55%)
> Amean 296 24.9337 ( 0.00%) 23.8967 ( 4.16%)
>
> b) hackbench-process-sockets
>
> Amean 1 0.6990 ( 0.00%) 0.6520 * 6.72%*
> Amean 4 1.6513 ( 0.00%) 1.6080 * 2.62%*
> Amean 7 2.5103 ( 0.00%) 2.5020 ( 0.33%)
> Amean 12 4.1470 ( 0.00%) 4.0957 * 1.24%*
> Amean 21 7.0823 ( 0.00%) 6.9237 * 2.24%*
> Amean 30 9.9510 ( 0.00%) 9.7937 * 1.58%*
> Amean 48 15.8853 ( 0.00%) 15.5410 * 2.17%*
> Amean 79 26.3313 ( 0.00%) 26.0363 * 1.12%*
> Amean 110 36.6647 ( 0.00%) 36.2657 * 1.09%*
> Amean 141 47.0590 ( 0.00%) 46.4010 * 1.40%*
> Amean 172 57.5020 ( 0.00%) 56.9897 ( 0.89%)
> Amean 203 67.9277 ( 0.00%) 66.8273 * 1.62%*
> Amean 234 78.3967 ( 0.00%) 77.2137 * 1.51%*
> Amean 265 88.5817 ( 0.00%) 87.6143 * 1.09%*
> Amean 296 99.4397 ( 0.00%) 98.0233 * 1.42%*
>
> c) hackbench-thread-pipes
>
> Amean 1 0.4437 ( 0.00%) 0.4373 ( 1.43%)
> Amean 4 0.6667 ( 0.00%) 0.6340 ( 4.90%)
> Amean 7 0.7813 ( 0.00%) 0.8177 * -4.65%*
> Amean 12 1.2747 ( 0.00%) 1.3113 ( -2.88%)
> Amean 21 2.4703 ( 0.00%) 2.3637 * 4.32%*
> Amean 30 3.6547 ( 0.00%) 3.2377 * 11.41%*
> Amean 48 5.7580 ( 0.00%) 5.3140 * 7.71%*
> Amean 79 9.1770 ( 0.00%) 8.3717 * 8.78%*
> Amean 110 11.7167 ( 0.00%) 11.3867 * 2.82%*
> Amean 141 14.1490 ( 0.00%) 13.9017 ( 1.75%)
> Amean 172 17.3880 ( 0.00%) 16.4897 ( 5.17%)
> Amean 203 19.3760 ( 0.00%) 18.8807 ( 2.56%)
> Amean 234 22.7477 ( 0.00%) 21.7420 * 4.42%*
> Amean 265 25.8940 ( 0.00%) 23.6173 * 8.79%*
> Amean 296 27.8677 ( 0.00%) 26.5053 * 4.89%*
>
> d) hackbench-thread-sockets
>
> Amean 1 0.7303 ( 0.00%) 0.6817 * 6.66%*
> Amean 4 1.6820 ( 0.00%) 1.6343 * 2.83%*
> Amean 7 2.6060 ( 0.00%) 2.5393 * 2.56%*
> Amean 12 4.2663 ( 0.00%) 4.1810 * 2.00%*
> Amean 21 7.2110 ( 0.00%) 7.0873 * 1.71%*
> Amean 30 10.1453 ( 0.00%) 10.0320 * 1.12%*
> Amean 48 16.2787 ( 0.00%) 15.9040 * 2.30%*
> Amean 79 27.0090 ( 0.00%) 26.5803 * 1.59%*
> Amean 110 37.5397 ( 0.00%) 37.1200 * 1.12%*
> Amean 141 48.0853 ( 0.00%) 47.7613 * 0.67%*
> Amean 172 58.7967 ( 0.00%) 58.2570 * 0.92%*
> Amean 203 69.5303 ( 0.00%) 68.8930 * 0.92%*
> Amean 234 79.9943 ( 0.00%) 79.5347 * 0.57%*
> Amean 265 90.5877 ( 0.00%) 90.1223 ( 0.51%)
> Amean 296 101.2390 ( 0.00%) 101.1687 ( 0.07%)
>
> e) netperf-udp
>
> Hmean send-64 202.37 ( 0.00%) 202.46 ( 0.05%)
> Hmean send-128 407.01 ( 0.00%) 402.86 * -1.02%*
> Hmean send-256 788.50 ( 0.00%) 789.87 ( 0.17%)
> Hmean send-1024 3047.98 ( 0.00%) 3036.19 ( -0.39%)
> Hmean send-2048 5820.33 ( 0.00%) 5776.30 ( -0.76%)
> Hmean send-3312 8941.40 ( 0.00%) 8809.25 * -1.48%*
> Hmean send-4096 10804.41 ( 0.00%) 10686.95 * -1.09%*
> Hmean send-8192 17105.63 ( 0.00%) 17323.44 * 1.27%*
> Hmean send-16384 28166.17 ( 0.00%) 28191.05 ( 0.09%)
> Hmean recv-64 202.37 ( 0.00%) 202.46 ( 0.05%)
> Hmean recv-128 407.01 ( 0.00%) 402.86 * -1.02%*
> Hmean recv-256 788.50 ( 0.00%) 789.87 ( 0.17%)
> Hmean recv-1024 3047.98 ( 0.00%) 3036.19 ( -0.39%)
> Hmean recv-2048 5820.33 ( 0.00%) 5776.30 ( -0.76%)
> Hmean recv-3312 8941.40 ( 0.00%) 8809.23 * -1.48%*
> Hmean recv-4096 10804.41 ( 0.00%) 10686.95 * -1.09%*
> Hmean recv-8192 17105.55 ( 0.00%) 17323.44 * 1.27%*
> Hmean recv-16384 28166.03 ( 0.00%) 28191.04 ( 0.09%)
>
> f) netperf-tcp
>
> Hmean 64 838.30 ( 0.00%) 837.61 ( -0.08%)
> Hmean 128 1633.25 ( 0.00%) 1653.50 * 1.24%*
> Hmean 256 3107.89 ( 0.00%) 3148.10 ( 1.29%)
> Hmean 1024 10435.39 ( 0.00%) 10503.81 ( 0.66%)
> Hmean 2048 17152.34 ( 0.00%) 17314.40 ( 0.94%)
> Hmean 3312 21928.05 ( 0.00%) 21995.97 ( 0.31%)
> Hmean 4096 23990.44 ( 0.00%) 24008.97 ( 0.08%)
> Hmean 8192 29445.84 ( 0.00%) 29245.31 * -0.68%*
> Hmean 16384 33592.90 ( 0.00%) 34096.68 * 1.50%*
>
> g) tbench4 Throughput
>
> Hmean 1 311.15 ( 0.00%) 306.76 * -1.41%*
> Hmean 2 619.24 ( 0.00%) 615.00 * -0.68%*
> Hmean 4 1220.45 ( 0.00%) 1222.08 * 0.13%*
> Hmean 8 2410.93 ( 0.00%) 2413.59 * 0.11%*
> Hmean 16 4652.09 ( 0.00%) 4766.12 * 2.45%*
> Hmean 32 7809.03 ( 0.00%) 7831.88 * 0.29%*
> Hmean 64 9116.92 ( 0.00%) 9171.25 * 0.60%*
> Hmean 128 17732.63 ( 0.00%) 20209.26 * 13.97%*
> Hmean 256 19603.22 ( 0.00%) 19007.72 * -3.04%*
> Hmean 384 19796.37 ( 0.00%) 17396.64 * -12.12%*
>
>
> There seems like not much difference except hackbench pipe test at
> certain groups (30~110).
OK, smaller LLC domain seems to not have much difference, which might
suggest that by leveraging load balance code path, the read/write
to LLC shared mask might not be the bottleneck. I have an vague
impression that during Aubrey's cpumask searching for idle CPUs
work[1], there is concern that updating the shared mask in large LLC
has introduced cache contention and performance degrading. Maybe we
can find that regressed test case to verify.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/1615872606-56087-1-git-send-email-aubrey.li@intel.com/
> I am intended to provide better scalability
> by applying the filter which will be enabled when:
>
> - The LLC is large enough that simply traversing becomes
> in-sufficient, and/or
>
> - The LLC is loaded that unoccupied cpus are minority.
>
> But it would be very nice if a more fine grained pattern works well
> so we can drop the above constrains.
>
We can first try to push a simple version, and later optimize it.
One concern about v4 is that, we changed the logic in v3, which recorded
the overloaded CPU, while v4 tracks unoccupied CPUs. An overloaded CPU is
more "stable" because there are more than 1 running tasks on that runqueue.
It is more likely to remain "occupied" for a while. That is to say,
nr_task = 1, 2, 3... will all be regarded as occupied, while only nr_task = 0
is unoccupied. The former would bring less false negative/positive.
By far I have tested hackbench/schbench/netperf on top of Peter's sched/core branch,
with SIS_UTIL enabled. Overall it looks good, and netperf has especially
significant improvement when the load approaches overloaded(which is aligned
with your comment above). I'll re-run the netperf for several cycles to check the
standard deviation. And I'm also curious about v3's performance because it
tracks overloaded CPUs, so I'll also test on v3 with small modifications.
hackbench
=========
case load baseline(std%) compare%( std%)
process-pipe group-1 1.00 ( 0.00) -0.16 ( 0.00)
process-pipe group-2 1.00 ( 0.00) +0.47 ( 0.00)
process-pipe group-4 1.00 ( 0.00) -0.56 ( 0.00)
process-pipe group-8 1.00 ( 0.00) +3.29 ( 0.00)
process-sockets group-1 1.00 ( 0.00) -1.85 ( 0.00)
process-sockets group-2 1.00 ( 0.00) -5.67 ( 0.00)
process-sockets group-4 1.00 ( 0.00) -0.14 ( 0.00)
process-sockets group-8 1.00 ( 0.00) -0.29 ( 0.00)
threads-pipe group-1 1.00 ( 0.00) +2.17 ( 0.00)
threads-pipe group-2 1.00 ( 0.00) +3.26 ( 0.00)
threads-pipe group-4 1.00 ( 0.00) -0.32 ( 0.00)
threads-pipe group-8 1.00 ( 0.00) +3.36 ( 0.00)
threads-sockets group-1 1.00 ( 0.00) -0.91 ( 0.00)
threads-sockets group-2 1.00 ( 0.00) -0.91 ( 0.00)
threads-sockets group-4 1.00 ( 0.00) +0.27 ( 0.00)
threads-sockets group-8 1.00 ( 0.00) -0.55 ( 0.00)
schbench
========
case load baseline(std%) compare%( std%)
normal mthread-1 1.00 ( 0.00) -3.12 ( 0.00)
normal mthread-2 1.00 ( 0.00) +0.00 ( 0.00)
normal mthread-4 1.00 ( 0.00) -2.63 ( 0.00)
normal mthread-8 1.00 ( 0.00) -7.22 ( 0.00)
thanks,
Chenyu
> >
> > Thanks & BR,
> > Abel
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