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Message-Id: <9d064771-9402-4e84-96f8-4713cddf42f2@www.fastmail.com>
Date:   Wed, 06 Jul 2022 21:49:43 +0100
From:   "Jiaxun Yang" <jiaxun.yang@...goat.com>
To:     "Qi Hu" <huqi@...ngson.cn>, "Xi Ruoyao" <xry111@...111.site>,
        "Huacai Chen" <chenhuacai@...nel.org>
Cc:     "Xuerui Wang" <kernel@...0n.name>, loongarch@...ts.linux.dev,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] LoongArch: Clean useless vcsr in loongarch_fpu.



在2022年7月6日七月 上午5:00,Qi Hu写道:
> On 2022/7/6 10:51, Xi Ruoyao wrote:
>> On Wed, 2022-07-06 at 10:35 +0800, Huacai Chen wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe Xuerui and Ruoyao have some misunderstanding. LSX/LASX will
>>> surely be upstream, this has nothing to do with cleanup VCSR16.
>>> Because FP/LSX/LASX share the same control bits in FCSR now.
>> My guess:
>>
>> Almost all behavior of vector unit is controlled by FCSR (for example,
>> the rounding of both FPU and vector unit should be controlled by FCSR
>> altogether), except one bit similar to the bit 24 of MSACSR ("flush to
>> zero") is in VCSR [^1].  And "flush to zero" is not really useful so it
>> will be removed in 3A6000, and we'll not use it for 3A5000.
> Actually, flush to zero has been removed in 3A5000.
>>
>> [^1]: A more bold guess: the hardware engineers could have just said
>> "let's wire this register called MSACSR in GS464V as FCSR16/VCSR in
>> LA464, maybe it will be useful and who knows?"  But now in practice it's
>> not useful.
>>
>> Am I correct?
> The hardware(LA464) has removed the vcsr("has but not use" is 
> incorrect), and here are some details:
>
> - For all FP operations, including LSX/LASX, they are controlled by 
> fcsr0/1/2/3.
>
> - For LSX/LASX other operations, they are *not* controlled by any other 
> CSR now. And fcsr16 to fcsr31 are reserved to control these operations 
> (now they are *undefined*).
Sorry but what do you meant by “these” here?
If it means LSX/LASX, are you trying to say that future chip’s LSX/LASX won’t be
compatible with present 3A5000? As your said fcsr16 and fcsr31 are undefined
for now.

Thanks
-

>
> - Flush to zero(MSACSR.FS) is removed and not supported.
>
> - If you use "movfcsr2gr" to read the fcsr16, the value is *UNDEFINED*.

-- 
- Jiaxun

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