linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v11 3/6] arm64: dts: allwinner: Add Allwinner H616 .dtsi file

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Date:   Thu, 07 Jul 2022 18:39:47 +0200
From:   Jernej Škrabec <jernej.skrabec@...il.com>
To:     Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@....com>,
        Samuel Holland <samuel@...lland.org>
Cc:     Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@...e.org>, Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>,
        Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@...aro.org>,
        Icenowy Zheng <icenowy@...c.io>,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-sunxi@...ts.linux.dev,
        devicetree@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 3/6] arm64: dts: allwinner: Add Allwinner H616 .dtsi file

Dne četrtek, 07. julij 2022 ob 08:30:32 CEST je Samuel Holland napisal(a):
> Hi Andre, Jernej,
> 
> On 7/6/22 8:16 AM, Andre Przywara wrote:
> > so after seemingly having finished writing this email, I realised that
> > this won't really help, as I think this diverts the discussion. And the
> > problem has been around for a while, and won't probably be solved easily
> > or quickly. I think we agree to disagree here, or we should admit that
> > there are different approaches ("bundled firmware" vs. "UEFI"), so in the
> > interest of not blocking the H616 series:
> > 
> > Shall I just keep the firmware node? This would work both ways, whereas
> > dropping the node would impede the "bundled firmware" approach?
> 
> Let me try to sum up the relevant portion of my thoughts (and save the rest
> for elsewhere):
> 
> The only reason to add the reserved-memory node is to support
> externally-loaded DTBs. By adding the node, we are committing to support
> externally-loaded DTBs on this SoC.
> 
> Upgrading the kernel is not allowed to break boot. If we support
> externally-loaded DTBs, that rule extends to DTBs shipped with the kernel.
> 
> If we remove the reserved-memory node, the combination of old U-Boot + new
> externally-loaded DTB will stop booting (the kernel version is irrelevant).
> Therefore, if we add the node, we can never remove it, full stop.
> 
> I will (begrudgingly) accept that, as long as the node matches what TF-A
> actually generates today. That means, please:
>  - Drop the label and update the node name
>  - Reduce the size to 256 KiB, matching (BL31_LIMIT - BL31_BASE)

In the interest of moving things forward, I agree to that.

Best regards,
Jernej