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Message-ID: <87r12q6021.fsf@oracle.com>
Date:   Tue, 12 Jul 2022 13:29:58 +0200
From:   "Jose E. Marchesi" <jose.marchesi@...cle.com>
To:     Quentin Monnet <quentin@...valent.com>
Cc:     Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com>,
        James Hilliard <james.hilliard1@...il.com>,
        Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>, bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org>,
        Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@...com>,
        Song Liu <songliubraving@...com>,
        John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
        KP Singh <kpsingh@...nel.org>,
        Nathan Chancellor <nathan@...nel.org>,
        Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>,
        Tom Rix <trix@...hat.com>, Networking <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        llvm@...ts.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] bpf/scripts: Generate GCC compatible helpers


> On 12/07/2022 05:40, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
>> CC Quentin as well
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 5:11 PM James Hilliard
>> <james.hilliard1@...il.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 5:36 PM Yonghong Song <yhs@...com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/6/22 10:28 AM, James Hilliard wrote:
>>>>> The current bpf_helper_defs.h helpers are llvm specific and don't work
>>>>> correctly with gcc.
>>>>>
>>>>> GCC appears to required kernel helper funcs to have the following
>>>>> attribute set: __attribute__((kernel_helper(NUM)))
>>>>>
>>>>> Generate gcc compatible headers based on the format in bpf-helpers.h.
>>>>>
>>>>> This adds conditional blocks for GCC while leaving clang codepaths
>>>>> unchanged, for example:
>>>>>       #if __GNUC__ && !__clang__
>>>>>       void *bpf_map_lookup_elem(void *map, const void *key)
>>>>> __attribute__((kernel_helper(1)));
>>>>>       #else
>>>>>       static void *(*bpf_map_lookup_elem)(void *map, const void *key) = (void *) 1;
>>>>>       #endif
>>>>
>>>> It does look like that gcc kernel_helper attribute is better than
>>>> '(void *) 1' style. The original clang uses '(void *) 1' style is
>>>> just for simplicity.
>>>
>>> Isn't the original style going to be needed for backwards compatibility with
>>> older clang versions for a while?
>> 
>> I'm curious, is there any added benefit to having this special
>> kernel_helper attribute vs what we did in Clang for a long time? Did
>> GCC do it just to be different and require workarounds like this or
>> there was some technical benefit to this?
>> 
>> This duplication of definitions with #if for each one looks really
>> awful, IMO. I'd rather have a macro invocation like below (or
>> something along those lines) for each helper:
>> 
>> BPF_HELPER_DEF(2, void *, bpf_map_update_elem, void *map, const void
>> *key, const void *value, __u64 flags);
>> 
>> And then define BPF_HELPER_DEF() once based on whether it's Clang or GCC.
>
> Hi, for what it's worth I agree with Andrii, I would rather avoid the
> #if/else/endif and dual definition for each helper in the header, using
> a macro should keep it more readable indeed. The existing one
> (BPF_HELPER(return_type, name, args, id)) can likely be adapted.
>
> Also I note that contrarily to clang's helpers, you don't declare GCC's
> as "static" (although I'm not sure of the effect of declaring them
> static in this case).

That's because in the clang line bpf_map_lookup_elem is a static
variable, a pointer to a function type, initialized to 1.

On the other hand, in the GCC line bpf_map_lookup_elem is just a normal
function declaration.  No variable, and thus no need for `static'.

>
> Thanks,
> Quentin

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