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Date:   Thu, 14 Jul 2022 13:58:17 +0300
From:   Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@...hat.com>
To:     Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
Cc:     Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@...hat.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: x86: Add dedicated helper to get CPUID entry
 with significant index

On Tue, 2022-07-12 at 17:09 +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2022-07-12 at 00:06 +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > +               /*
> > > > +                * Function matches and index is significant; not specifying an
> > > > +                * exact index in this case is a KVM bug.
> > > > +                */
> > > Nitpick: Why KVM bug? Bad userspace can also provide a index-significant entry for cpuid
> > > leaf for which index is not significant in the x86 spec.
> > 
> > Ugh, you're right.
> > 
> > > We could arrange a table of all known leaves and for each leaf if it has an index
> > > in the x86 spec, and warn/reject the userspace CPUID info if it doesn't match.
> > 
> > We have such a table, cpuid_function_is_indexed().  The alternative would be to
> > do:
> > 
> >                 WARN_ON_ONCE(index == KVM_CPUID_INDEX_NOT_SIGNIFICANT &&
> >                              cpuid_function_is_indexed(function));
> > 
> > The problem with rejecting userspace CPUID on mismatch is that it could break
> > userspace :-/  Of course, this entire patch would also break userspace to some
> > extent, e.g. if userspace is relying on an exact match on index==0.  The only
> > difference being the guest lookups with an exact index would still work.
> > 
> > I think the restriction we could put in place would be that userspace can make
> > a leaf more relaxed, e.g. to play nice if userspace forgets to set the SIGNFICANT
> > flag, but rejects attempts to make guest CPUID more restrictive, i.e. disallow
> > setting the SIGNFICANT flag on leafs that KVM doesn't enumerate as significant.
> > 
> > > > +               WARN_ON_ONCE(index == KVM_CPUID_INDEX_NOT_SIGNIFICANT);
> 
> Actually, better idea.  Let userspace do whatever, and have direct KVM lookups
> for functions that architecturally don't have a significant index use the first
> entry even if userspace set the SIGNIFICANT flag.  That will mostly maintain
> backwards compatibility, the only thing that would break is if userspace set the
> SIGNIFICANT flag _and_ provided a non-zero index _and_ relied on KVM to not match
> the entry.

Makes sense as well.

Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky

> 
> We could still enforce matching in the future, but it wouldn't be a prerequisite
> for this cleanup.
> 
>                 /*
>                  * Similarly, use the first matching entry if KVM is doing a
>                  * lookup (as opposed to emulating CPUID) for a function that's
>                  * architecturally defined as not having a significant index.
>                  */
>                 if (index == KVM_CPUID_INDEX_NOT_SIGNIFICANT) {
>                         /*
>                          * Direct lookups from KVM should not diverge from what
>                          * KVM defines internally (the architectural behavior).
>                          */
>                         WARN_ON_ONCE(cpuid_function_is_indexed(function));
>                         return e;
>                 }
> 


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