linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] ubsan: disable UBSAN_DIV

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Message-ID: <CAHk-=wh6iW0Fv9mbtX9k2=9Kc9pFEEX7unWzmN7vqB4qXhBL+w@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Sat, 16 Jul 2022 10:34:17 -0700
From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:     Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>
Cc:     Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Sudip Mukherjee <sudipm.mukherjee@...il.com>,
        Nathan Chancellor <nathan@...nel.org>,
        Tom Rix <trix@...hat.com>, Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...nel.org>,
        "Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        clang-built-linux <llvm@...ts.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ubsan: disable UBSAN_DIV_ZERO for clang

On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 4:15 PM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> There are still the "__ubsan_handle_load_invalid_value() with UACCESS
> enabled" messages, but those are misfeatures of the kvm cmpxchg
> implementation.

Ok, so it really is independent of the non-optimal kvm cmpxchg implementation.

The kvm code is fine - yes, it runs a bit too much code under the
CLAC/STAC pair, but that "too much code" really is just a few local
variable assignments.

So any reasonable compiler will keep them in registers, and even if
that's not the case, it would just be a stack spill or reload with AC
set, which is not really a problem.

But calling out to external functions within that SMAP region is
invalid, and objdump warns about it.  Because we really want to
minimize the area where user accesses are ok, and it's a "don't do
this, you now lost the SMAP protection".

ANYWAY.

The reason the clang build warns - but the gcc build does not - is
simply that clang code generation is just nasty.

I decided to make a non-kernel test-case so that clang people can look
at it without having to worry about any kernel code issues or the
details of the SMAP rules, and it really shows how clang generates
horribly pointless and wrong code.

I'm not sure what the right thing to do is to get this sorted out, but
I created an "issue" on github for this:

    https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/issues/56568

in the hope that this can get fixed. Because it's very clearly a clang
misfeature, where clang basically generates insane code that violates
the rules we try to enforce with objdump.

Nick / Nathan / clang-built-linux people - if there are other better
ways than that github issue thing to make people aware of this, that
would be lovely, and please forward that issue to the right people.

                         Linus