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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 17:44:07 -0700
From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@...el.com>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>
CC: "Fabio M. De Francesco" <fmdefrancesco@...il.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@...radead.org>,
Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
Peter Collingbourne <pcc@...gle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@...ux.ibm.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] Documentation/mm: Don't kmap*() pages which can't
come from HIGHMEM
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 03:13:00PM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> "Fabio M. De Francesco" <fmdefrancesco@...il.com> writes:
>
> > There is no need to kmap*() pages which are guaranteed to come from
> > ZONE_NORMAL (or lower). Linux has currently several call sites of
> > kmap{,_atomic,_local_page}() on pages allocated, for instance, with
> > alloc_page(GFP_NOFS) and other similar allocations.
> >
> > Therefore, add a paragraph to highmem.rst, to explain better that a
> > plain page_address() should be used for getting the address of pages
> > which cannot come from ZONE_HIGHMEM.
> >
> > Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
> > Cc: Matthew Wilcox (Oracle) <willy@...radead.org>
> > Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@...ux.ibm.com>
> > Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>
> > Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
> > Suggested-by: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@...el.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Fabio M. De Francesco <fmdefrancesco@...il.com>
> > ---
> > Documentation/vm/highmem.rst | 6 ++++++
> > 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/vm/highmem.rst b/Documentation/vm/highmem.rst
> > index c9887f241c6c..f266354c82ab 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/vm/highmem.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/vm/highmem.rst
> > @@ -71,6 +71,12 @@ list shows them in order of preference of use.
> > kmap_local_page() always returns a valid virtual address and it is assumed
> > that kunmap_local() will never fail.
> >
> > + On CONFIG_HIGHMEM=n kernels and for low memory pages this returns the
> > + virtual address of the direct mapping. Only real highmem pages are
> > + temporarily mapped. Therefore, users should instead call a plain
> > + page_address() for getting the address of memory pages which, depending
> > + on the GFP_* flags, cannot come from ZONE_HIGHMEM.
> > +
>
> Is this good advice? First, it requires developers to worry about
> whether their pages might be in highmem, which is kind of like worrying
> about having coins in your pocket in case you need a payphone.
This is a good point. Perhaps this is better worded as:
On CONFIG_HIGHMEM=n kernels and for low memory pages this returns the
virtual address of the direct mapping. Only real highmem pages are
temporarily mapped. Therefore, users may call a plain page_address()
for pages which are known to not come from ZONE_HIGHMEM.
However, it is always safe to use kmap_local_page()/kunmap_local() and
access through those calls will be as efficient as page_address() on
most architectures.
> But it
> would also run afoul of other semantics for kmap*(), such as PKS, should
> that ever be merged:
>
> https://lwn.net/Articles/894531/
PKS is yet to be merged. As of now, there is no good reason to force users to
use the kmap_local_page() if the page zone is known.
I believe that beyond PKS there will come a time when we need to change the
page_address() callers but currently this documentation is correct and does
allow callers to optimize for the corner case of a HIGHMEM system if they
desire.
As a reference, the use of kmap* vs page_address() was discussed recently in a
couple of places[1][2] and I can't fault the logic there at this time.
Thanks for the review,
Ira
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/20220621131521.GW20633@twin.jikos.cz/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CANn89iK6g+4Fy2VMV7=feUAOUDHu-J38be+oU76yp+zGH6xCJQ@mail.gmail.com/
>
> Thanks,
>
> jon
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