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Date:   Fri, 22 Jul 2022 12:31:45 +0200
From:   Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>
To:     Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>
Cc:     Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>,
        Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>,
        linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org, linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org,
        x86@...nel.org, linux-sh@...r.kernel.org,
        kasan-dev@...glegroups.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Add KUnit test for
 constraints accounting

On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 at 12:11, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > > [adding Will]
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 05:05:01PM +0200, Marco Elver wrote:
> > > > > Add KUnit test for hw_breakpoint constraints accounting, with various
> > > > > interesting mixes of breakpoint targets (some care was taken to catch
> > > > > interesting corner cases via bug-injection).
> > > > >
> > > > > The test cannot be built as a module because it requires access to
> > > > > hw_breakpoint_slots(), which is not inlinable or exported on all
> > > > > architectures.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>
> > > >
> > > > As mentioned on IRC, I'm seeing these tests fail on arm64 when applied atop
> > > > v5.19-rc7:
> > > >
> > > > | TAP version 14
> > > > | 1..1
> > > > |     # Subtest: hw_breakpoint
> > > > |     1..9
> > > > |     ok 1 - test_one_cpu
> > > > |     ok 2 - test_many_cpus
> > > > |     # test_one_task_on_all_cpus: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > > |     not ok 3 - test_one_task_on_all_cpus
> > > > |     # test_two_tasks_on_all_cpus: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > > |     not ok 4 - test_two_tasks_on_all_cpus
> > > > |     # test_one_task_on_one_cpu: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > > |     not ok 5 - test_one_task_on_one_cpu
> > > > |     # test_one_task_mixed: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > > |     not ok 6 - test_one_task_mixed
> > > > |     # test_two_tasks_on_one_cpu: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > > |     not ok 7 - test_two_tasks_on_one_cpu
> > > > |     # test_two_tasks_on_one_all_cpus: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > > |     not ok 8 - test_two_tasks_on_one_all_cpus
> > > > |     # test_task_on_all_and_one_cpu: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > > |     not ok 9 - test_task_on_all_and_one_cpu
> > > > | # hw_breakpoint: pass:2 fail:7 skip:0 total:9
> > > > | # Totals: pass:2 fail:7 skip:0 total:9
> > > >
> > > > ... which seems to be becasue arm64 currently forbids per-task
> > > > breakpoints/watchpoints in hw_breakpoint_arch_parse(), where we have:
> > > >
> > > >         /*
> > > >          * Disallow per-task kernel breakpoints since these would
> > > >          * complicate the stepping code.
> > > >          */
> > > >         if (hw->ctrl.privilege == AARCH64_BREAKPOINT_EL1 && bp->hw.target)
> > > >                 return -EINVAL;
> > > >
> > > > ... which has been the case since day one in commit:
> > > >
> > > >   478fcb2cdb2351dc ("arm64: Debugging support")
> > > >
> > > > I'm not immediately sure what would be necessary to support per-task kernel
> > > > breakpoints, but given a lot of that state is currently per-cpu, I imagine it's
> > > > invasive.
> > >
> > > I would actually like to remove HW_BREAKPOINT completely for arm64 as it
> > > doesn't really work and causes problems for other interfaces such as ptrace
> > > and kgdb.
> >
> > Will it be a localized removal of code that will be easy to revert in
> > future? Or will it touch lots of code here and there?
> > Let's say we come up with a very important use case for HW_BREAKPOINT
> > and will need to make it work on arm64 as well in future.
>
> My (rough) plan is to implement a lower-level abstraction for handling the
> underlying hardware resources, so we can layer consumers on top of that
> instead of funneling through hw_breakpoint. So if we figure out how to make
> bits of hw_breakpoint work on arm64, then it should just go on top.
>
> The main pain point for hw_breakpoint is kernel-side {break,watch}points
> and I think there are open design questions about how they should work
> on arm64, particularly when considering the interaction with user
> watchpoints triggering on uaccess routines and the possibility of hitting
> a kernel watchpoint in irq context.

I see. Our main interest would be break/watchpoints on user addresses
firing from both user-space and kernel (uaccess), so at least on irqs.

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