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Date:   Fri, 22 Jul 2022 08:41:36 -0700
From:   Doug Anderson <dianders@...omium.org>
To:     Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
Cc:     Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@...aro.org>,
        Yunlong Jia <yunlong.jia@....corp-partner.google.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Henry Sun <henrysun@...gle.com>,
        Bob Moragues <moragues@...omium.org>,
        Andy Gross <agross@...nel.org>,
        Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@...aro.org>,
        Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@...ainline.org>,
        Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@...aro.org>,
        "open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" 
        <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] dt-bindings: arm: qcom: Document additional sku6
 for sc7180 pazquel

Hi,

On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 5:22 PM Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 11:29:13AM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 9:52 AM Krzysztof Kozlowski
> > <krzysztof.kozlowski@...aro.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 21/07/2022 18:43, Doug Anderson wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 9:33 AM Krzysztof Kozlowski
> > > > <krzysztof.kozlowski@...aro.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 21/07/2022 15:37, Doug Anderson wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Not worth sending a new version for, but normally I expect the
> > > >>> bindings to be patch #1 and the dts change to be patch #2. In any
> > > >>> case:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Reviewed-by: Douglas Anderson <dianders@...omium.org>
> > > >>
> > > >> I would say worth v4, because otherwise patches is not bisectable.
> > > >
> > > > You're saying because `dtbs_check` will fail between the two?
> > >
> > > Yes
> >
> > OK. Then I assume you agree that reversing the order of the patches
> > won't help, only combining the two patches into one.
> >
> >
> > > > How does
> > > > flipping the order help? If `dtbs_check` needs to be bisectable then
> > > > these two need to be one patch, but I was always under the impression
> > > > that we wanted bindings patches separate from dts patches.
> > >
> > > I don't think anyone said that bindings patches must be separate from
> > > DTS. The only restriction is DTS cannot go with drivers.
> >
> > I have always heard that best practice is to have bindings in a patch
> > by themselves. If I've misunderstood and/or folks have changed their
> > minds, that's fine, but historically I've been told to keep them
> > separate.
>
> Correct.
>
>
> > > Bindings for boards go pretty often with DTS (subarch). This is exactly
> > > what maintainers do, e.g.:
> > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/qcom/linux.git/log/?h=arm64-for-5.20
> > > Bindings for hardware should go via subsystem maintainer (drivers).
> >
> > OK, fair that in this case both the bindings and the yaml will land
> > through the Qualcomm tree. I guess it's really up to Bjorn and whether
> > he'd prefer "make dtbs_check" to be bisectable or whether he'd prefer
> > the bindings and dts change to be in separate patches from each other.
>
> Bindings go first if applied together because you have to define the
> binding before you use it. But sometimes things go via multiple trees
> and that's fine because it's just easier. In that case, the subsystem
> tree is preferred for bindings (i.e. with the driver). But in this case,
> Bjorn is the subsystem tree.

Thanks! I'll interpret your response as:

1. Keep this as two patches and it's more important to keep dts and
bindings separate than it is to avoid breaking bisectability of "make
dtbs_check".

2. Bindings should have been patch #1, but it's not a massive deal.

3. I'll assume that Bjorn will yell if he'd like this series re-posted
with the reverse order.

-Doug

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