linux-kernel - Re: [PATCHv7 02/14] mm: Add support for unaccepted memory

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Message-ID: <7d664831-a78c-4a4f-5bd6-f0e04463ca7c@redhat.com>
Date:   Mon, 25 Jul 2022 14:38:57 +0200
From:   David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
To:     Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
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        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv7 02/14] mm: Add support for unaccepted memory

On 25.07.22 14:23, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 12:30:36PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> Sure does...  *Something* has to manage the cache coherency so that old
>> physical aliases of the converted memory don't write back and clobber
>> new data.  But, maybe the hardware is doing that now.
> 
> Let's hope.
> 
>> Yeah, that two-tier system is the way it's happening today from what
>> I understand. This whole conversation is about how to handle the >4GB
>> memory.
> 
> Would it be possible to pre-accept a bunch of mem - think "pre-fault" -
> from userspace?
> 
> I.e., I'm thinking some huge process is going to start in the VM, VM
> userspace goes and causes a chunk of memory to be pre-accepted and then
> the process starts and runs more-or-less smoothly as the majority of its
> memory has already been "prepared".
> 
> Or does that not make any sense from mm perspective?
> 

The less core-MM code to handle unaccepted memory the better. Meaning,
that any kind of additional pre-acceptance (in addition to what we have
here) needs good justification.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb