linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v8 5/5] x86/tdx: Add Quote generation support

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:   Mon, 25 Jul 2022 21:56:51 +0000
From:   "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@...el.com>
To:     "Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@...el.com>
CC:     Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy 
        <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@...ux.intel.com>,
        Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@...il.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        "x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>,
        "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        "Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@...el.com>,
        "Andi Kleen" <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@...el.com>,
        "Wander Lairson Costa" <wander@...hat.com>,
        "marcelo.cerri@...onical.com" <marcelo.cerri@...onical.com>,
        "tim.gardner@...onical.com" <tim.gardner@...onical.com>,
        "khalid.elmously@...onical.com" <khalid.elmously@...onical.com>,
        "Cox, Philip" <philip.cox@...onical.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 5/5] x86/tdx: Add Quote generation support


> On Jul 25, 2022, at 1:23 PM, Hansen, Dave <dave.hansen@...el.com> wrote:
> 
> On 7/25/22 13:19, Nakajima, Jun wrote:
>> 3. Need to be available in minimal/early runtime environments,
>> including pre-boot, e.g. guest BIOS, no user-space yet.
> 
> Jun, are we talking about the same thing here?  This patch is for a
> guest userspace -> guest kernel ABI.  This facility is *FOR* userspace.
> It can't possibly be used before userspace is running.
> 
> I'm horribly confused.

I responded to one of Sathya’s questions, especially why we have the GetQuote in GHCI. 
And the hypervisor needs to implement that anyway because it doesn’t matter (or doesn’t know) whether the TD guest is running in BIOS, the kernel, or userspace. Of course, the facility in this patch is for userspace, but we don’t want to suggest to implement two different GetQuote code paths for guests, depending on the guest state, e.g. in the OS (kernel or userspace) or guest BIOS.

--- 
Jun