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Message-ID: <YuFzG9SykSHw1bVe@aptenodytes>
Date:   Wed, 27 Jul 2022 19:17:15 +0200
From:   Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@...tlin.com>
To:     Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com>
Cc:     Maxime Ripard <maxime@...no.tech>, Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>,
        devicetree@...r.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
        linux-sunxi@...ts.linux.dev, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-media@...r.kernel.org, Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@...e.org>,
        Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@...il.com>,
        Samuel Holland <samuel@...lland.org>,
        Michael Turquette <mturquette@...libre.com>,
        Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...nel.org>,
        Frank Rowand <frowand.list@...il.com>,
        Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>,
        Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@...tlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 1/8] of: Mark interconnects property supplier as
 optional

Hi,

On Wed 27 Jul 22, 09:06, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 5:06 AM Maxime Ripard <maxime@...no.tech> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 07:34:22PM -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 3:21 PM Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > +Saravana
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 02, 2022 at 10:10:53PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > In order to set their correct DMA address offset, some devices rely on
> > > > > the device-tree interconnects property which identifies an
> > > > > interconnect node that provides a dma-ranges property that can be used
> > > > > to set said offset.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since that logic is all handled by the generic openfirmware and driver
> > > > > code, the device-tree description could be enough to properly set
> > > > > the offset.
> > > > >
> > > > > However the interconnects property is currently not marked as
> > > > > optional, which implies that a driver for the corresponding node
> > > > > must be loaded as a requirement. When no such driver exists, this
> > > > > results in an endless EPROBE_DEFER which gets propagated to the
> > > > > calling driver. This ends up in the driver never loading.
> > > > >
> > > > > Marking the interconnects property as optional makes it possible
> > > > > to load the driver in that situation, since the EPROBE_DEFER return
> > > > > code will no longer be propagated to the driver.
> > > > >
> > > > > There might however be undesirable consequences with this change,
> > > > > which I do not fully grasp at this point.
> > >
> > > Temporary NACK till I get a bit more time to take a closer look. I
> > > really don't like the idea of making interconnects optional. IOMMUs
> > > and DMAs were exceptions. Also, we kinda discuss similar issues in
> > > LPC. We had some consensus on how to handle these and I noted them all
> > > down with a lot of details -- let me go take a look at those notes
> > > again and see if I can send a more generic patch.
> > >
> > > Paul,
> > >
> > > Can you point to the DTS (not DTSI) file that corresponds to this?
> > > Also, if it's a builtin kernel, I'd recommend setting
> > > deferred_probe_timeout=1 and that should take care of it too.
> >
> > For the record, I also encountered this today on next-20220726 with this
> > device:
> > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/arm/boot/dts/sun5i.dtsi#n775
> >
> > The driver won't probe without fw_devlink=off
> 
> Really? I basically ended up doing what I mentioned in my original
> reply. next-20220726 should have my changes that'll make sure
> fw_devlink doesn't block any probe (it'll still try to create as many
> device links as possible) after 10s (default deferred probe timeout).
> Can you try to find more info on why it's not probing?
> <debugfs>/devices_deferred should give more details.

By the way last time I checked the initial issue that I reported appeared to be
fixed by the patch (Extend deferred probe timeout on driver registration).

Cheers,

Paul

-- 
Paul Kocialkowski, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com

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