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Message-ID: <53428314-9dfc-288d-d109-79240fba82ac@intel.com>
Date:   Wed, 17 Aug 2022 08:24:08 +0300
From:   Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>
To:     Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>,
        Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...nel.org>
Cc:     Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        "linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org" <linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: perf tools man pages on the web

On 16/08/22 16:25, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 11:05 PM Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 16/08/22 08:07, Namhyung Kim wrote:
>>> Hi Ian and Adrian,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 7:56 AM Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 5:05 AM Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I notice man pages on man7.org e.g.
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/perf.1.html
>>>>>
>>>>> do not get updated every release, and I wondered if the perf tools
>>>>> man pages should also be under:
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://docs.kernel.org/tools/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Sounds good to me. I'm assuming it would be some kind of build step
>>>> that would take the man pages and add them to what linux-doc needs?
>>>
>>> I guess it's the RST format.  I'm not sure if there's a converter
>>> from asciidoc to RST.
>>
>> Could use the html files that are already generated by:
>>
>>         make -C perf/tools html
> 
> A lot of the man page makefile code comes from git and wasn't in great
> shape the last I looked [1]. I believe that would be true for the HTML
> output. As there are existing dependencies on rst2man for BPF [2], I
> think it'd be cleaner to migrate all the man pages to rst format with
> new man page build rules using rst2man. Wdyt?

That seems like a larger job.  For now, I am just suggesting copying the
html files onto kernel.org.

+ Mauro

Mauro, do you know if that is feasible?

> 
> Thanks,
> Ian
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210715013343.2286699-1-irogers@google.com/
> [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/tools/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h#n1538
> 
>>>                        Anyway having the perf man pages in the
>>> tools section looks good.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fwiw, there has been some effort to try to improve the wiki:
>>>> https://perf.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page
>>>> For example, the useful links are now broken apart and have more
>>>> links, there is a work-in-progress glossary. Perhaps there can be some
>>>> guidance on what to capture and where.
>>>
>>> Thanks for working on this.  I really need to take a look...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Namhyung
>>

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