linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] x86/sev: Mark snp

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Message-ID: <YwcZjxVkO/lspvmv@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:   Thu, 25 Aug 2022 08:41:19 +0200
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     Segher Boessenkool <segher@...nel.crashing.org>
Cc:     Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
        Michael Matz <matz@...e.de>, linux-toolchains@...r.kernel.org,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/sev: Mark snp_abort() noreturn

On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 05:41:44PM -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote:

> It is!  A noreturn function (that doesn't warn like "warning: 'noreturn'
> function does return") does not have whatever your architecture uses for
> function returns in it.  Just like most non-noreturn functions that do
> not return btw: the attribute affects code generation of the *caller* of
> such functions.

Yeah, but objtool can't tell if the compiler just spazzed out and
stopped generating code or if it was intentional.

> > STT_FUNC_NORETURN would do I suppose, except then all
> > the tools will need to be taught how to deal with that, which is also
> > very painful.
> 
> What is that?  Even Google has no idea.  Hrm.

Something I just made up :-) A new symbol type for noreturn functions
would be very useful.

> What fundamental problem does objtool have in dealing with any normal
> compiled code itself?  Does it try to understand the semantics of the
> machine code (not very tractable), does it expect some magic markup to
> be generated together with the machine code, does it want to have
> compilers hamstrung wrt what kind of code they can generate?
> 
> There is some serious disconnect here, and I'm not even completely sure
> what it is :-(

Objtool follows control flow. As you said above, noreturn functions
behave differently and code-gen after a call to a noreturn function
stops.

Typically objtool expects a call instruction to return and continue on
the next instruction; if all of a sudden there's nothing there, it gets
suspicious and says the compiler messed up.

(FWIW, we've found a fair number of actual compiler bugs with this)

Now, as mentioned we have heuristics that try and detect if a function
is noreturn or not; but all those fail horribly if the function is in
another translation unit for example.