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Message-ID: <a91f65ad5c392b6e34f07bc6d3f35c89a76a98db.camel@intel.com>
Date:   Wed, 31 Aug 2022 03:17:08 +0000
From:   "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@...el.com>
To:     "jarkko@...nel.org" <jarkko@...nel.org>
CC:     "pmenzel@...gen.mpg.de" <pmenzel@...gen.mpg.de>,
        "linux-sgx@...r.kernel.org" <linux-sgx@...r.kernel.org>,
        "x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>,
        "dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Dhanraj, Vijay" <vijay.dhanraj@...el.com>,
        "Chatre, Reinette" <reinette.chatre@...el.com>,
        "mingo@...hat.com" <mingo@...hat.com>,
        "tglx@...utronix.de" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        "bp@...en8.de" <bp@...en8.de>,
        "haitao.huang@...ux.intel.com" <haitao.huang@...ux.intel.com>,
        "hpa@...or.com" <hpa@...or.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] x86/sgx: Do not consider unsanitized pages an error

On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 05:57 +0300, jarkko@...nel.org wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 02:55:52AM +0000, Huang, Kai wrote:
> > On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 05:44 +0300, jarkko@...nel.org wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 02:35:53AM +0000, Huang, Kai wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 05:15 +0300, jarkko@...nel.org wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 01:27:58AM +0000, Huang, Kai wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 15:54 -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Jarkko,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 8/29/2022 8:12 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > > > > > > In sgx_init(), if misc_register() for the provision device fails, and
> > > > > > > > neither sgx_drv_init() nor sgx_vepc_init() succeeds, then ksgxd will be
> > > > > > > > prematurely stopped.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I do not think misc_register() is required to fail for the scenario to
> > > > > > > be triggered (rather use "or" than "and"?). Perhaps just
> > > > > > > "In sgx_init(), if a failure is encountered after ksgxd is started
> > > > > > > (via sgx_page_reclaimer_init()) ...".
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > IMHO "a failure" might be too vague.  For instance, failure to sgx_drv_init()
> > > > > > won't immediately result in ksgxd to stop prematurally.  As long as KVM SGX can
> > > > > > be initialized successfully, sgx_init() still returns 0.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Btw I was thinking whether we should move sgx_page_reclaimer_init() to the end
> > > > > > of sgx_init(), after we make sure at least one of the driver and the KVM SGX is
> > > > > > initialized successfully.  Then the code change in this patch won't be necessary
> > > > > > if I understand correctly.  AFAICT there's no good reason to start the ksgxd at
> > > > > > early stage before we are sure either the driver or KVM SGX will work.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I would focus fixing the existing flow rather than reinventing the flow.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It can be made to work, and therefore it is IMHO correct action to take.
> > > > 
> > > > From another perspective, the *existing flow* is the reason which causes this
> > > > bug.  A real fix is to fix the flow itself.
> > > 
> > > Any existing flow in part of the kernel can have a bug. That
> > > does not mean that switching flow would be proper way to fix
> > > a bug.
> > > 
> > > BR, Jarkko
> > 
> > Yes but I think this is only true when the flow is reasonable.  If the flow
> > itself isn't reasonable, we should fix the flow (given it's easy to fix AFAICT).
> > 
> > Anyway, let us also hear from others.
> 
> The flow can be made to work without issues, which in the
> context of a bug fix is exactly what a bug fix should do.
> Not more or less.

No. To me the flow itself is buggy.  There's no reason to start ksgxd() before
at least SGX driver is initialized to work.

Patching the buggy flow is more like a workaround, but isn't a real fix.

> 
> You don't gain any measurable value for the user with this
> switch idea.

There is actual gain by moving sgx_page_reclaimer_init() to sgx_drv_init(), or
only calling sgx_page_reclaimer_init() when sgx_drv_init() returns success:

If somehow sgx_drv_init() fails to initialize, ksgxd() won't run.

Currently, if SGX driver fails to initialize but virtual EPC initializes
successfully, ksgxd() still runs. However it achieves nothing but only wastes
CPU cycles.


-- 
Thanks,
-Kai


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