linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v5 06/18] rcu: Introduce call_rcu

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Date:   Mon, 5 Sep 2022 16:18:22 -0400
From:   Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>
To:     Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>
Cc:     rcu@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        rushikesh.s.kadam@...el.com, urezki@...il.com,
        neeraj.iitr10@...il.com, paulmck@...nel.org, rostedt@...dmis.org,
        vineeth@...byteword.org, boqun.feng@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 06/18] rcu: Introduce call_rcu_lazy() API
 implementation

Hi Frederick,

On 9/5/2022 8:59 AM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>>> Also that's a subtle change which purpose isn't explained. It means that
>>> rcu_barrier_entrain() used to wait for the bypass timer in the worst case
>>> but now we force rcuog into it immediately. Should that be a separate change?
>> It could be split, but it is laziness that amplifies the issue so I thought of
>> keeping it in the same patch. I don't mind one way or the other.
> Ok then lets keep it here but please add a comment for the reason to
> force wake here.

Ok will do, thanks.

>>>> +	case RCU_NOCB_WAKE_BYPASS:
>>>> +		mod_jif = 2;
>>>> +		break;
>>>> +
>>>> +	case RCU_NOCB_WAKE:
>>>> +	case RCU_NOCB_WAKE_FORCE:
>>>> +		// For these, make it wake up the soonest if we
>>>> +		// were in a bypass or lazy sleep before.
>>>>  		if (rdp_gp->nocb_defer_wakeup < RCU_NOCB_WAKE)
>>>> -			mod_timer(&rdp_gp->nocb_timer, jiffies + 1);
>>>> -		if (rdp_gp->nocb_defer_wakeup < waketype)
>>>> -			WRITE_ONCE(rdp_gp->nocb_defer_wakeup, waketype);
>>>> +			mod_jif = 1;
>>>> +		break;
>>>>  	}
>>>>  
>>>> +	if (mod_jif)
>>>> +		mod_timer(&rdp_gp->nocb_timer, jiffies + mod_jif);
>>>> +
>>>> +	if (rdp_gp->nocb_defer_wakeup < waketype)
>>>> +		WRITE_ONCE(rdp_gp->nocb_defer_wakeup, waketype);
>>> So RCU_NOCB_WAKE_BYPASS and RCU_NOCB_WAKE_LAZY don't override the timer state
>>> anymore? Looks like something is missing.
>> My goal was to make sure that NOCB_WAKE_LAZY wake keeps the timer lazy. If I
>> don't do this, then when CPU enters idle, it will immediately do a wake up via
>> this call:
>>
>> 	rcu_nocb_need_deferred_wakeup(rdp_gp, RCU_NOCB_WAKE)
> But if the timer is in RCU_NOCB_WAKE_LAZY mode, that shouldn't be a problem.
> 
>> That was almost always causing lazy CBs to be non-lazy thus negating all the
>> benefits.
>>
>> Note that bypass will also have same issue where the bypass CB will not wait for
>> intended bypass duration. To make it consistent with lazy, I made bypass also
>> not override nocb_defer_wakeup.
> I'm surprised because rcu_nocb_flush_deferred_wakeup() should only do the wake up
> if the timer is RCU_NOCB_WAKE or RCU_NOCB_WAKE_FORCE. Or is that code buggy
> somehow?
> Actually your change is modifying the timer delay without changing the timer
> mode, which may shortcut rcu_nocb_flush_deferred_wakeup() check and actually
> make it perform early upon idle loop entry.
> 
> Or am I missing something?
> 

You could very well have a point and I am not sure now (I happen to 'forget' the
issue once the code was working). I distinctly remember not being able to be
lazy without doing this. Maybe there is some other path. I am kicking myself for
not commenting in the code or change log enough about the issue.

I will test again sync'ing the lazy timer and the ->nocb_defer_wakeup field
properly and see if I can trigger the issue.

Thanks!

 - Joel