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Date:   Thu, 8 Sep 2022 09:58:42 +0200
From:   Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:     Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>,
        Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        kasan-dev@...glegroups.com, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>,
        Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf: Allow restricted kernel breakpoints on user addresses

On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 14:39, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 02, 2022 at 12:00:57PM +0200, Marco Elver wrote:
>
> > +/*
> > + * Check if unprivileged users are allowed to set up breakpoints on user
> > + * addresses that also count when the kernel accesses them.
> > + */
> > +static bool perf_allow_kernel_breakpoint(struct perf_event_attr *attr)
> > +{
> > +     if (attr->type != PERF_TYPE_BREAKPOINT)
> > +             return false;
> > +
> > +     /*
> > +      * The sample may contain IPs, registers, or other information that may
> > +      * disclose kernel addresses or timing information. Disallow any kind of
> > +      * additional sample information.
> > +      */
> > +     if (attr->sample_type)
> > +             return false;
>
> This feels a bit weird; should that perhaps be is_sampling_event()?

is_sampling_event() just checks for sample_period. In fact, we still
want to set sample_period to get overflow events. That in itself is
not dangerous.

What's problematic is if the samples contain additional information,
which can be specified in sample_type. For example if PERF_SAMPLE_IP
is set, it might leak kernel IPs, and that's bad. Since it's safest to
disallow any kind of extra information, we just check if sample_type
is zero.

> > +
> > +     /*
> > +      * Only allow kernel breakpoints on user addresses.
> > +      */
> > +     return access_ok((void __user *)(unsigned long)attr->bp_addr, attr->bp_len);
> > +}
> > +
> > +int perf_allow_kernel(struct perf_event_attr *attr)
> > +{
> > +     if (sysctl_perf_event_paranoid > 1 && !perfmon_capable() &&
> > +         !perf_allow_kernel_breakpoint(attr))
>
> I'm on the fence about this; one the one hand it feels weird to have a
> breakpoint exception here and not a pmu specific callback for instance;
> OTOH, leaving security policy like that up to pmu drivers sounds like a
> really bad idea too.
>
> Keep it as is I suppose, just me thinking out loud or so.

Ack. I also think this should stay in core, as it's also easier to audit.

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