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Date:   Thu, 8 Sep 2022 21:46:04 +0800
From:   Shiyang Ruan <ruansy.fnst@...itsu.com>
To:     "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@...nel.org>, <bfoster@...hat.com>
CC:     "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org>,
        "nvdimm@...ts.linux.dev" <nvdimm@...ts.linux.dev>,
        "linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "david@...morbit.com" <david@...morbit.com>,
        "hch@...radead.org" <hch@...radead.org>,
        Yang, Xiao/杨 晓 <yangx.jy@...itsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfs: fail dax mount if reflink is enabled on a partition



在 2022/8/4 8:51, Darrick J. Wong 写道:
> On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 06:47:24AM +0000, ruansy.fnst@...itsu.com wrote:

...

>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, since these patches (dax&reflink&rmap + THIS + pmem-unbind) are
>>>>>> waiting to be merged, is it time to think about "removing the
>>>>>> experimental tag" again?  :)
>>>>>
>>>>> It's probably time to take up that question again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I tried running generic/470 (aka the MAP_SYNC test) and it
>>>>> didn't succeed because it sets up dmlogwrites atop dmthinp atop pmem,
>>>>> and at least one of those dm layers no longer allows fsdax pass-through,
>>>>> so XFS silently turned mount -o dax into -o dax=never. :(
>>>>
>>>> Hi Darrick,
>>>>
>>>> I tried generic/470 but it didn't run:
>>>>      [not run] Cannot use thin-pool devices on DAX capable block devices.
>>>>
>>>> Did you modify the _require_dm_target() in common/rc?  I added thin-pool
>>>> to not to check dax capability:
>>>>
>>>>            case $target in
>>>>            stripe|linear|log-writes|thin-pool)  # add thin-pool here
>>>>                    ;;
>>>>
>>>> then the case finally ran and it silently turned off dax as you said.
>>>>
>>>> Are the steps for reproduction correct? If so, I will continue to
>>>> investigate this problem.
>>>
>>> Ah, yes, I did add thin-pool to that case statement.  Sorry I forgot to
>>> mention that.  I suspect that the removal of dm support for pmem is
>>> going to force us to completely redesign this test.  I can't really
>>> think of how, though, since there's no good way that I know of to gain a
>>> point-in-time snapshot of a pmem device.
>>
>> Hi Darrick,
>>
>>   > removal of dm support for pmem
>> I think here we are saying about xfstest who removed the support, not
>> kernel?
>>
>> I found some xfstests commits:
>> fc7b3903894a6213c765d64df91847f4460336a2  # common/rc: add the restriction.
>> fc5870da485aec0f9196a0f2bed32f73f6b2c664  # generic/470: use thin-pool
>>
>> So, this case was never able to run since the second commit?  (I didn't
>> notice the not run case.  I thought it was expected to be not run.)
>>
>> And according to the first commit, the restriction was added because
>> some of dm devices don't support dax.  So my understanding is: we should
>> redesign the case to make the it work, and firstly, we should add dax
>> support for dm devices in kernel.
> 
> dm devices used to have fsdax support; I think Christoph is actively
> removing (or already has removed) all that support.
> 
>> In addition, is there any other testcase has the same problem?  so that
>> we can deal with them together.
> 
> The last I checked, there aren't any that require MAP_SYNC or pmem aside
> from g/470 and the three poison notification tests that you sent a few
> days ago.
> 
> --D
> 

Hi Darrick, Brian

I made a little investigation on generic/470.

This case was able to run before introducing thin-pool[1], but since 
that, it became 'Failed'/'Not Run' because thin-pool does not support 
DAX.  I have checked the log of thin-pool, it never supports DAX.  And, 
it's not someone has removed the fsdax support.  So, I think it's not 
correct to bypass the requirement conditions by adding 'thin-pool' to 
_require_dm_target().

As far as I known, to prevent out-of-order replay of dm-log-write, 
thin-pool was introduced (to provide discard zeroing).  Should we solve 
the 'out-of-order replay' issue instead of avoiding it by thin-pool? @Brian

Besides, since it's not a fsdax problem, I think there is nothing need 
to be fixed in fsdax.  I'd like to help it solved, but I'm still 
wondering if we could back to the original topic("Remove Experimental 
Tag") firstly? :)


[1] fc5870da485aec0f9196a0f2bed32f73f6b2c664 generic/470: use thin 
volume for dmlogwrites target device


--
Thanks,
Ruan.


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