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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2022 17:29:10 -0400
From: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@...il.com>
To: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@...nel.org>
Cc: Linux Firmware <linux-firmware@...nel.org>,
Juerg Haefliger <juerg.haefliger@...onical.com>,
Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@...oraproject.org>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.com>, contact@...rentcarlier.com,
mpagano@...too.org,
"Limonciello, Mario" <Mario.Limonciello@....com>,
Jared Dominguez <jaredz@...hat.com>,
Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@...hat.com>,
"Linux-Kernel@...r. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: linux-firmware signed commits; does anyone care?
No objections from me. I don't see much value in it.
Alex
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 9:33 AM Josh Boyer <jwboyer@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> Some time ago, we went back to doing ~monthly releases for
> linux-firmware primarily to help distributions package firmware in a
> simpler manner. We GPG sign the tarballs, as is good practice, but as
> part of reintroducing the tarballs we also started having a
> linux-firmware maintainer GPG sign *every* commit done by a
> maintainer. The intention there was that because we're dealing with
> binary blobs we really have no recourse to see changes unlike a source
> code repo. The signed commits at least provides a measure for
> interested people to ensure the repo itself is only being committed to
> by a recognized maintainer and it isn't compromised (in theory). The
> downside is that pull requests are merged non-ff and we wind up
> signing the merge commit.
>
> The question at hand though, is does anyone care about the GPG signed
> commits? It's not clear to me this practice is even noticed nor if it
> is bringing any value to this project. Since we've started this
> practice, I am literally the only one committing to the repo and while
> it isn't hard to do I want to know if it's actually useful to anyone.
>
> I ask for two separate reasons. The first is that a group of
> interested firmware submitters is looking at modernizing the workflow
> for the linux-firmware project and moving to a merge request workflow
> instead of submitting giant binary blob patches via email. This would
> allow us to put some CI in place for simple checks to the WHENCE file,
> etc. Doing this while still having GPG signed commits isn't
> impossible but it certainly complicates things a bit, and would likely
> require a trusted bot to sign commits. That has implications on
> secret storage and changes the dynamic on trust levels that make the
> whole thing even more questionable.
>
> The second reason is that even if people are validating the GPG signed
> commits, it's not exactly user friendly. I've been looking at
> sigstore and recor and that might be a better solution in the long run
> if we do want to utilize something like the current scheme.
>
> I'll still GPG sign the tarballs, but I'd like to propose dropping our
> current self-imposed requirement that all commits are GPG signed.
> Thoughts?
>
> josh
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