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Message-ID: <Yy1ZadE6Vnnc2dNf@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:   Fri, 23 Sep 2022 08:59:53 +0200
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
Cc:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>,
        Darren Hart <dvhart@...radead.org>,
        Andy Shevchenko <andy@...radead.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        x86@...nel.org, linux-efi@...r.kernel.org,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/mm+efi: Avoid creating W+X mappings

On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 12:08:57AM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Sept 2022 at 21:32, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
> >
> > I'm planning on sticking this in x86/mm so that it goes upstream
> > along with the W+X detection code.
> >
> > --
> >
> > A recent x86/mm change warns and refuses to create W+X mappings.
> >
> > The 32-bit EFI code tries to create such a mapping and trips over
> > the new W+X refusal.
> >
> > Make the EFI_RUNTIME_SERVICES_CODE mapping read-only to fix it.
> >
> 
> This is not safe. EFI_RUNTIME_SERVICES_CODE covers both .text and
> .data sections of the EFI runtime PE/COFF executables in memory, so
> you are essentially making .data and .bss read-only. (Whether those
> executables actually modify their .data and .bss at runtime is a
> different matter, but the point is that it used to be possible)
> 
> More recent firmwares may provide a 'memory attributes table'
> separately which describes the individual sections, but older 32-bit
> firmwares are not even built with 4k section alignment, so code and
> data may share a single page. Note that we haven't wired up this
> memory attributes table on i386 at the moment, and I seriously doubt
> that 32-bit firmware in the field exposes it.
> 
> Can we just turn off this feature for 32-bit?

Goodie; some seriously security minded people who did that EFI turd :/
Let's just heap it on the pile of 32bit sucks and should not be
considered a security target anymore and indeed kill this feature.


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