Date:   Wed, 28 Sep 2022 17:59:02 +0000
From:   William McVicker <willmcvicker@...gle.com>
To:     Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@...il.com>
Cc:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
        Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@...nel.org>,
        Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
        Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>,
        Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
        Serge Semin <Sergey.Semin@...kalelectronics.ru>,
        Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@...aro.org>,
        Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@....com>,
        Jingoo Han <jingoohan1@...il.com>,
        Gustavo Pimentel <gustavo.pimentel@...opsys.com>,
        Krzysztof Wilczyński <kw@...ux.com>,
        Alexey Malahov <Alexey.Malahov@...kalelectronics.ru>,
        Pavel Parkhomenko <Pavel.Parkhomenko@...kalelectronics.ru>,
        Frank Li <Frank.Li@....com>,
        Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@...aro.org>,
        linux-pci@...r.kernel.org, devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 20/20] PCI: dwc: Add Baikal-T1 PCIe controller support

On 09/28/2022, Serge Semin wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 11:08:18PM +0000, William McVicker wrote:
> > On 09/26/2022, Serge Semin wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 04:31:28PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 03:49:24PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote:
> > > > > @Christoph, @Marek, @Bjorn, @Rob could you please join to the
> > > > > DMA-mask related discussion. @Lorenzo can't decide which driver should
> > > > > initialize the device DMA-mask.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > The driver that does the actual DMA mapping or allocation functions
> > > > need to set it.  But even with your comments on the questions I'm
> > > > still confused what struct device you are even talking about.  Can
> > > > you explain this a bit better?
> > > 
> > > We are talking about the DW PCIe Root Port controller with DW eDMA engine
> > > embedded. It' simplified structure can be represented as follows:
> > > 
> > >          +---------------+     +--------+
> > >          | System memory |     | CPU(s) |
> > >          +---------------+     +--------+
> > >                 ^  |              |  ^
> > >                 | ... System bus ... |
> > >                ... |              | ...
> > >                 |  v              v  |
> > >  +------------+------+--------+----------+------+
> > >  | DW PCIe RP | AXI-m|        | AXI-s/DBI|      |
> > >  |            +------+        +----------+      |
> > >  |                ^              ^     |        |
> > >  |         +------+----+         |    CSRs      |
> > >  |         v           v         v              |
> > >  |     +-------+  +---------+ +----------+      |
> > >  |     | eDMA  |  | in-iATU | | out-iATU |      |
> > >  |     +-------+  +---------+ +----------+      |
> > >  |         ^           ^           ^            |
> > >  |         +--------+--+---+-------+            |
> > >  +------------------| PIPE |--------------------+
> > >                     +------+
> > >                       | ^
> > >                       v |
> > >                    PCIe bus
> > > 
> > > The DW PCIe controller device is instantiated as a platform device
> > > defined in the system DT source file. The device is probed by the
> > > DW PCIe low-level driver, which after the platform-specific setups
> > > initiates the generic DW PCIe host-controller registration. On the way
> > > of that procedure the DW PCIe core tries to auto-detect the DW eDMA
> > > engine availability. If the engine is found, the DW eDMA probe method
> > > is called in order to register the DMA-engine device. After that the
> > > PCIe host bridge is registered. Both the PCIe host-bridge and
> > > DMA-engine devices will have the DW PCIe platform device as parent.
> > > 
> > > Getting back to the sketch above. Here is a short description of the
> > > content:
> > > 1. DW eDMA is capable of performing the data transfers from/to System
> > > memory to/from PCIe bus memory.
> > > 2. in-iATU is the Inbound Address Translation Unit, which is
> > > responsible for the PCIe bus peripheral devices to access the system
> > > memory. The "dma-ranges" DT-property is used to initialize the
> > > PCIe<->Sys memory mapping. (@William note the In-iATU setup doesn't
> > > affect the eDMA transfers.)
> > > 3. out-iATU is responsible for the CPU(s) to access the PCIe bus
> > > peripheral devices memory/cfg-space.
> > > 
> > > So eDMA and in-iATU are using the same AXI-master interface to access
> > > the system memory. Thus the DMAable memory capability is the same for
> > > both of them (Though in-iATU may have some specific mapping based on
> > > the "dma-ranges" DT-property setup). Neither DW eDMA nor DW PCIe Root
> > > Port CSRs region have any register to auto-detect the AXI-m interface
> > > address bus width. It's selected during the IP-core synthesize and is
> > > platform-specific. The question is: "What driver/code is supposed to
> > > set the DMA-mask of the DW PCIe platform device?" Seeing the parental
> > > platform device is used to perform the memory-mapping for both DW eDMA
> > > clients and PCIe-bus peripheral device drivers, and seeing the AXI-m
> > > interface parameters aren't auto-detectable and are platform-specific,
> > > the only place it should be done in is the DW PCIe low-level device
> > > driver. I don't really see any alternative... What is your opinion?
> > > 
> > > -Sergey
> > 
> 
> > I believe this eDMA implementation is new for an upstream DW PCIe device
> > driver, right? If so, this will require some refactoring of the DMA mask code,
> > but you need to also make sure you don't break the MSI target address use case
> > that prompted this 32-bit DMA mask change -- [1].
> 
> As far as I can see the commit
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20201117165312.25847-1-vidyas@nvidia.com/
> isn't marked as fixes or whatever. If so it gets to be pointless due to this
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/of/platform.c#L183
> and this
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/base/platform.c#L529
> and seeing none of the DW PCIe RP/EP platform drivers change the
> device DMA-mask of the being probed platform device. So the mask must
> have been of 32-bits anyway even without that commit.
> 
> Moreover as Rob already told you here
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAL_JsqJh=d-B51b6yPBRq0tOwbChN=AFPr-a19U1QdQZAE7c1A@mail.gmail.com/
> and I mentioned in my response here
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20220912000211.ct6asuhhmnatje5e@mobilestation/
> DW PCie MSI TLPs never reach the system memory. The TLP PCIe-bus target
> address is checked in the host bridge. If it matches to the one
> initialized in the iMSI-RX engine CSRs the MSI IRQ will be raised.
> None system memory IO will be actually performed. Thus changing the
> device DMA-capability due to something which actually doesn't cause
> any DMA at the very least inappropriate.

Thanks for pointing out the DMA mask references during platform device
allocation. I wasn't aware of that. However, I still have issues with using
ZONE_DMA32. See comments on how we can address this here:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/YzSJ2ioEeRhHC6zn@google.com/

> 
> The last but not least changing the DMA-mask in the common code which
> isn't aware of the device/platform capability is also at the very least
> inappropriate.
> 
> > My changes were directly
> > related to allowing the DW PCIe device driver to fallback to a 64-bit DMA mask
> > for the MSI target address if there are no 32-bit allocations available. For
> > that use-case, using a 32-bit mask doesn't have any perf impact here since
> > there is no actual DMAs happening.
> 
> Regarding your changes. I'll give you my comments in that thread, but
> here is a short summary. One more time. There is no actually DMA
> performed on MSI due to the way the iMSI-RX works. So setting the
> device DMA-mask based on that is inappropriate. Secondly the coherent
> memory might be very expensive on some platforms
> (see Documentation/core-api/dma-api.rst). And it's on MIPS32 for
> instance. Thus using dma_alloc_coherent()
> for something other than for real DMA is also inappropriate. What
> should have been done instead:
> 1. Drop any dma_set_mask*() invocations.

I'm fine with this, but others will need to approve of that.

> 1. Preserve the alloc_page() method usage.
> 2. Pass GFP_DMA32 to the alloc_page() function only if
> PCI_MSI_FLAGS_64BIT is set.
> 
> The suggestion above is the best choice seeing we can't reserve some
> part of the PCI-bus memory without allocating the real system memory
> behind as @Robin noted here in the last paragraph:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/1e63a581-14ae-b4b5-a5bf-ca8f09c33af6@arm.com/

I'm not okay with this as it re-introduces the dependency on ZONE_DMA32.
I responded with more details here with regards to why and how we can work
around the ARCH issues with dma_alloc_coherent():
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/YzSJ2ioEeRhHC6zn@google.com/

Thanks,
Will

> 
> -Sergey
> 
> > 
> > Would it be possible for the DW PCIe device driver to set a capabilities flag
> > that the PCIe host controller can read and set the mask accordingly. This way
> > you don't need to go fix up any drivers that require a 32-bit DMA'able address
> > for the MSI target address. For example, I see several of the PCI capability
> > features have 64-bit flags, e.g. PCI_MSI_FLAGS_64BIT and PCI_X_STATUS_64BIT. If
> > not, then you're going to have to re-work the host controller driver and DW
> > PCIe device drivers that require a 32-bit MSI target address.
> > 
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20201117165312.25847-1-vidyas@nvidia.com/
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Will
> > 

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