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Message-ID: <YzQXDPtDisogYNzo@earth.li>
Date:   Wed, 28 Sep 2022 10:42:36 +0100
From:   Jonathan McDowell <noodles@...th.li>
To:     Evan Green <evgreen@...omium.org>
Cc:     Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@...nel.org>,
        Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Matthew Garrett <mgarrett@...ora.tech>,
        Ken Goldman <kgold@...ux.ibm.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Daniil Lunev <dlunev@...gle.com>,
        "James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@...ux.ibm.com>,
        linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Gwendal Grignou <gwendal@...omium.org>,
        Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: TPM: hibernate with IMA PCR 10

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 09:03:21AM -0700, Evan Green wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 6:30 AM Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@...nel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 04:15:20PM -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> >
> > > Enabling hibernate or IMA shouldn't be an either-or decision, if at all
> > > possible.  The main concern is that attestation servers be able to
> > > detect hibernation and possibly the loss of measurement
> > > history.  Luckily, although the PCRs are reset, the TPM
> > > pcrUpdateCounter is not.
> > >
> > > I would appreciate including a "hibernate" marker, similar to the
> > > "boot_aggregate".
> >
> > Yeah, I guess that would not do harm.
> 
> I think I understand it. It's pretty much exactly a boot_aggregate
> marker that we want, correct?
> 
> Should it have its own name, or is it sufficient to simply infer that
> a boot_aggregate marker that isn't the first item in the list must
> come from hibernate resume?

I think it should have its own name, because a subsequent boot_aggregate
is inserted when we kexec into a new kernel.


J.

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