linux-kernel - Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues"

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <3381c74ad6862224e4511d7edf6f9681c678338b.camel@perches.com>
Date:   Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:32:27 -0700
From:   Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>
To:     Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
        "Artem S. Tashkinov" <aros@....com>
Cc:     Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
        Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@...mhuis.info>,
        Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@...uxfoundation.org>,
        workflows@...r.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "regressions@...ts.linux.dev" <regressions@...ts.linux.dev>,
        ksummit@...ts.linux.dev,
        Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@....com>
Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla
 blues"

On Sun, 2022-10-02 at 18:08 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 2:49 PM Artem S. Tashkinov <aros@....com> wrote:
> > The current ill-maintained semi-functional bugzilla has proven to be a
> > ton more useful than random mailing lists no sane person can keep track
> > of. Bug "reports", i.e. random emails are neglected and forgotten. LKML
> > is the worst of them probably.
> 
> Such a statement really needs to be backed by numbers...
> 
> > Let's operate with some examples:
> > 
> > Bugzilla gets around two dozen bug reports weekly which encompass at
> > most thirty emails, which equals to four emails daily on average.
> 
> This immediately debunks your statement above.

true.

> $ git log v5.19..linus/master | grep Fixes: | wc -l
> 2928
> 
> So that's 46 bugs fixed per _day_.

But not really.  Many, perhaps even most, of these "Fixes:" are for code
introduced in -rc releases and so are a typical part of a development
cycle and are not for fixes in nominally released/final versions.