Message-ID: <CACycT3usE0QdJd50bSiLiPwTFxscg-Ur=iZyeGJJBPe7+KxOFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 25 Oct 2022 16:17:33 +0800
From:   Yongji Xie <xieyongji@...edance.com>
To:     Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
Cc:     Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@...il.com>,
        "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>,
        Ming Lei <tom.leiming@...il.com>,
        Ziyang Zhang <ZiyangZhang@...ux.alibaba.com>,
        Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@...hat.com>,
        io-uring@...r.kernel.org, linux-block@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Denis V. Lunev" <den@...nvz.org>,
        Xiaoguang Wang <xiaoguang.wang@...ux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: ublk-qcow2: ublk-qcow2 is available

On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 2:30 PM Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
>
>
> 在 2022/10/21 13:33, Yongji Xie 写道:
> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 10:54 PM Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@...il.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 at 09:17, Yongji Xie <xieyongji@...edance.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 2:59 PM Ming Lei <tom.leiming@...il.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 07:11:59PM +0800, Yongji Xie wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 8:57 PM Ming Lei <tom.leiming@...il.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 02:48:04PM +0800, Yongji Xie wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 10:22 PM Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@...il.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2022 at 04:43, Ziyang Zhang <ZiyangZhang@...ux.alibaba.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 2022/10/5 12:18, Ming Lei wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 04, 2022 at 09:53:32AM -0400, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 at 05:44, Ming Lei <tom.leiming@...il.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 03, 2022 at 03:53:41PM -0400, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 05:24:11PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ublk-qcow2 is available now.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool, thanks for sharing!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far it provides basic read/write function, and compression and snapshot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't supported yet. The target/backend implementation is completely
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on io_uring, and share the same io_uring with ublk IO command
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> handler, just like what ublk-loop does.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Follows the main motivations of ublk-qcow2:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - building one complicated target from scratch helps libublksrv APIs/functions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    become mature/stable more quickly, since qcow2 is complicated and needs more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    requirement from libublksrv compared with other simple ones(loop, null)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - there are several attempts of implementing qcow2 driver in kernel, such as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    ``qloop`` [2], ``dm-qcow2`` [3] and ``in kernel qcow2(ro)`` [4], so ublk-qcow2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    might useful be for covering requirement in this field
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - performance comparison with qemu-nbd, and it was my 1st thought to evaluate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    performance of ublk/io_uring backend by writing one ublk-qcow2 since ublksrv
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    is started
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - help to abstract common building block or design pattern for writing new ublk
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    target/backend
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far it basically passes xfstest(XFS) test by using ublk-qcow2 block
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> device as TEST_DEV, and kernel building workload is verified too. Also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> soft update approach is applied in meta flushing, and meta data
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrity is guaranteed, 'make test T=qcow2/040' covers this kind of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> test, and only cluster leak is reported during this test.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The performance data looks much better compared with qemu-nbd, see
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> details in commit log[1], README[5] and STATUS[6]. And the test covers both
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> empty image and pre-allocated image, for example of pre-allocated qcow2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> image(8GB):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - qemu-nbd (make test T=qcow2/002)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Single queue?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>      randwrite(4k): jobs 1, iops 24605
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>      randread(4k): jobs 1, iops 30938
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>      randrw(4k): jobs 1, iops read 13981 write 14001
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>      rw(512k): jobs 1, iops read 724 write 728
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please try qemu-storage-daemon's VDUSE export type as well. The
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> command-line should be similar to this:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>    # modprobe virtio_vdpa # attaches vDPA devices to host kernel
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not found virtio_vdpa module even though I enabled all the following
> >>>>>>>>>>>> options:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>          --- vDPA drivers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>            <M>   vDPA device simulator core
> >>>>>>>>>>>>            <M>     vDPA simulator for networking device
> >>>>>>>>>>>>            <M>     vDPA simulator for block device
> >>>>>>>>>>>>            <M>   VDUSE (vDPA Device in Userspace) support
> >>>>>>>>>>>>            <M>   Intel IFC VF vDPA driver
> >>>>>>>>>>>>            <M>   Virtio PCI bridge vDPA driver
> >>>>>>>>>>>>            <M>   vDPA driver for Alibaba ENI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, my test environment is VM and the shared data is done in VM too, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> can virtio_vdpa be used inside VM?
> >>>>>>>>>>> I hope Xie Yongji can help explain how to benchmark VDUSE.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> virtio_vdpa is available inside guests too. Please check that
> >>>>>>>>>>> VIRTIO_VDPA ("vDPA driver for virtio devices") is enabled in "Virtio
> >>>>>>>>>>> drivers" menu.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>    # modprobe vduse
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>    # qemu-storage-daemon \
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>        --blockdev file,filename=test.qcow2,cache.direct=of|off,aio=native,node-name=file \
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>        --blockdev qcow2,file=file,node-name=qcow2 \
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>        --object iothread,id=iothread0 \
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>        --export vduse-blk,id=vduse0,name=vduse0,num-queues=$(nproc),node-name=qcow2,writable=on,iothread=iothread0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>    # vdpa dev add name vduse0 mgmtdev vduse
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A virtio-blk device should appear and xfstests can be run on it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (typically /dev/vda unless you already have other virtio-blk devices).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Afterwards you can destroy the device using:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>    # vdpa dev del vduse0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - ublk-qcow2 (make test T=qcow2/022)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are a lot of other factors not directly related to NBD vs ublk. In
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> order to get an apples-to-apples comparison with qemu-* a ublk export
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> type is needed in qemu-storage-daemon. That way only the difference is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the ublk interface and the rest of the code path is identical, making it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> possible to compare NBD, VDUSE, ublk, etc more precisely.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe not true.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ublk-qcow2 uses io_uring to handle all backend IO(include meta IO) completely,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and so far single io_uring/pthread is for handling all qcow2 IOs and IO
> >>>>>>>>>>>> command.
> >>>>>>>>>>> qemu-nbd doesn't use io_uring to handle the backend IO, so we don't
> >>>>>>>>>> I tried to use it via --aio=io_uring for setting up qemu-nbd, but not succeed.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> know whether the benchmark demonstrates that ublk is faster than NBD,
> >>>>>>>>>>> that the ublk-qcow2 implementation is faster than qemu-nbd's qcow2,
> >>>>>>>>>>> whether there are miscellaneous implementation differences between
> >>>>>>>>>>> ublk-qcow2 and qemu-nbd (like using the same io_uring context for both
> >>>>>>>>>>> ublk and backend IO), or something else.
> >>>>>>>>>> The theory shouldn't be too complicated:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 1) io uring passthough(pt) communication is fast than socket, and io command
> >>>>>>>>>> is carried over io_uring pt commands, and should be fast than virio
> >>>>>>>>>> communication too.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2) io uring io handling is fast than libaio which is taken in the
> >>>>>>>>>> test on qemu-nbd, and all qcow2 backend io(include meta io) is handled
> >>>>>>>>>> by io_uring.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/ming1/ubdsrv/blob/master/tests/common/qcow2_common
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 3) ublk uses one single io_uring to handle all io commands and qcow2
> >>>>>>>>>> backend IOs, so batching handling is common, and it is easy to see
> >>>>>>>>>> dozens of IOs/io commands handled in single syscall, or even more.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm suggesting measuring changes to just 1 variable at a time.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise it's hard to reach a conclusion about the root cause of the
> >>>>>>>>>>> performance difference. Let's learn why ublk-qcow2 performs well.
> >>>>>>>>>> Turns out the latest Fedora 37-beta doesn't support vdpa yet, so I built
> >>>>>>>>>> qemu from the latest github tree, and finally it starts to work. And test kernel
> >>>>>>>>>> is v6.0 release.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Follows the test result, and all three devices are setup as single
> >>>>>>>>>> queue, and all tests are run in single job, still done in one VM, and
> >>>>>>>>>> the test images are stored on XFS/virito-scsi backed SSD.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The 1st group tests all three block device which is backed by empty
> >>>>>>>>>> qcow2 image.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The 2nd group tests all the three block devices backed by pre-allocated
> >>>>>>>>>> qcow2 image.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Except for big sequential IO(512K), there is still not small gap between
> >>>>>>>>>> vdpa-virtio-blk and ublk.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 1. run fio on block device over empty qcow2 image
> >>>>>>>>>> 1) qemu-nbd
> >>>>>>>>>> running qcow2/001
> >>>>>>>>>> run perf test on empty qcow2 image via nbd
> >>>>>>>>>>        fio (nbd(/mnt/data/ublk_null_8G_nYbgF.qcow2), libaio, bs 4k, dio, hw queues:1)...
> >>>>>>>>>>        randwrite: jobs 1, iops 8549
> >>>>>>>>>>        randread: jobs 1, iops 34829
> >>>>>>>>>>        randrw: jobs 1, iops read 11363 write 11333
> >>>>>>>>>>        rw(512k): jobs 1, iops read 590 write 597
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2) ublk-qcow2
> >>>>>>>>>> running qcow2/021
> >>>>>>>>>> run perf test on empty qcow2 image via ublk
> >>>>>>>>>>        fio (ublk/qcow2( -f /mnt/data/ublk_null_8G_s761j.qcow2), libaio, bs 4k, dio, hw queues:1, uring_comp: 0, get_data: 0).
> >>>>>>>>>>        randwrite: jobs 1, iops 16086
> >>>>>>>>>>        randread: jobs 1, iops 172720
> >>>>>>>>>>        randrw: jobs 1, iops read 35760 write 35702
> >>>>>>>>>>        rw(512k): jobs 1, iops read 1140 write 1149
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 3) vdpa-virtio-blk
> >>>>>>>>>> running debug/test_dev
> >>>>>>>>>> run io test on specified device
> >>>>>>>>>>        fio (vdpa(/dev/vdc), libaio, bs 4k, dio, hw queues:1)...
> >>>>>>>>>>        randwrite: jobs 1, iops 8626
> >>>>>>>>>>        randread: jobs 1, iops 126118
> >>>>>>>>>>        randrw: jobs 1, iops read 17698 write 17665
> >>>>>>>>>>        rw(512k): jobs 1, iops read 1023 write 1031
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2. run fio on block device over pre-allocated qcow2 image
> >>>>>>>>>> 1) qemu-nbd
> >>>>>>>>>> running qcow2/002
> >>>>>>>>>> run perf test on pre-allocated qcow2 image via nbd
> >>>>>>>>>>        fio (nbd(/mnt/data/ublk_data_8G_sc0SB.qcow2), libaio, bs 4k, dio, hw queues:1)...
> >>>>>>>>>>        randwrite: jobs 1, iops 21439
> >>>>>>>>>>        randread: jobs 1, iops 30336
> >>>>>>>>>>        randrw: jobs 1, iops read 11476 write 11449
> >>>>>>>>>>        rw(512k): jobs 1, iops read 718 write 722
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2) ublk-qcow2
> >>>>>>>>>> running qcow2/022
> >>>>>>>>>> run perf test on pre-allocated qcow2 image via ublk
> >>>>>>>>>>        fio (ublk/qcow2( -f /mnt/data/ublk_data_8G_yZiaJ.qcow2), libaio, bs 4k, dio, hw queues:1, uring_comp: 0, get_data: 0).
> >>>>>>>>>>        randwrite: jobs 1, iops 98757
> >>>>>>>>>>        randread: jobs 1, iops 110246
> >>>>>>>>>>        randrw: jobs 1, iops read 47229 write 47161
> >>>>>>>>>>        rw(512k): jobs 1, iops read 1416 write 1427
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 3) vdpa-virtio-blk
> >>>>>>>>>> running debug/test_dev
> >>>>>>>>>> run io test on specified device
> >>>>>>>>>>        fio (vdpa(/dev/vdc), libaio, bs 4k, dio, hw queues:1)...
> >>>>>>>>>>        randwrite: jobs 1, iops 47317
> >>>>>>>>>>        randread: jobs 1, iops 74092
> >>>>>>>>>>        randrw: jobs 1, iops read 27196 write 27234
> >>>>>>>>>>        rw(512k): jobs 1, iops read 1447 write 1458
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We are interested in VDUSE vs UBLK, too. And I have tested them with nullblk backend.
> >>>>>>>>> Let me share some results here.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I setup UBLK with:
> >>>>>>>>>    ublk add -t loop -f /dev/nullb0 -d QUEUE_DEPTH -q NR_QUEUE
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I setup VDUSE with:
> >>>>>>>>>    qemu-storage-daemon \
> >>>>>>>>>         --chardev socket,id=charmonitor,path=/tmp/qmp.sock,server=on,wait=off \
> >>>>>>>>>         --monitor chardev=charmonitor \
> >>>>>>>>>         --blockdev driver=host_device,cache.direct=on,filename=/dev/nullb0,node-name=disk0 \
> >>>>>>>>>         --export vduse-blk,id=test,node-name=disk0,name=vduse_test,writable=on,num-queues=NR_QUEUE,queue-size=QUEUE_DEPTH
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Here QUEUE_DEPTH is 1, 32 or 128 and NR_QUEUE is 1 or 4.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Note:
> >>>>>>>>> (1) VDUSE requires QUEUE_DEPTH >= 2. I cannot setup QUEUE_DEPTH to 1.
> >>>>>>>>> (2) I use qemu 7.1.0-rc3. It supports vduse-blk.
> >>>>>>>>> (3) I do not use ublk null target so that the test is fair.
> >>>>>>>>> (4) I setup fio with direct=1, bs=4k.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>> 1 job 1 iodepth, lat（usec)
> >>>>>>>>>                  vduse   ublk
> >>>>>>>>> seq-read        22.55   11.15
> >>>>>>>>> rand-read       22.49   11.17
> >>>>>>>>> seq-write       25.67   10.25
> >>>>>>>>> rand-write      24.13   10.16
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing. Any idea what the bottlenecks are for vduse and ublk?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think one reason for the latency gap of sync I/O is that vduse uses
> >>>>>>> workqueue in the I/O completion path but ublk doesn't.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And one bottleneck for the async I/O in vduse is that vduse will do
> >>>>>>> memcpy inside the critical section of virtqueue's spinlock in the
> >>>>>>> virtio-blk driver. That will hurt the performance heavily when
> >>>>>>> virtio_queue_rq() and virtblk_done() run concurrently. And it can be
> >>>>>>> mitigated by the advance DMA mapping feature [1] or irq binding
> >>>>>>> support [2].
> >>>>>> Hi Yongji,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yeah, that is the cost you paid for virtio. Wrt. userspace block device
> >>>>>> or other sort of userspace devices, cmd completion is driven by
> >>>>>> userspace, not sure if one such 'irq' is needed.
> >>>>> I'm not sure, it can be an optional feature in the future if needed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Even not sure if virtio
> >>>>>> ring is one good choice for such use case, given io_uring has been proved
> >>>>>> as very efficient(should be better than virtio ring, IMO).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Since vduse is aimed at creating a generic userspace device framework,
> >>>>> virtio should be the right way IMO.
> >>>> OK, it is the right way, but may not be the effective one.
> >>>>
> >>> Maybe, but I think we can try to optimize it.
> >>>
> >>>>> And with the vdpa framework, the
> >>>>> userspace device can serve both virtual machines and containers.
> >>>> virtio is good for VM, but not sure it is good enough for other
> >>>> cases.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Regarding the performance issue, actually I can't measure how much of
> >>>>> the performance loss is due to the difference between virtio ring and
> >>>>> iouring. But I think it should be very small. The main costs come from
> >>>>> the two bottlenecks I mentioned before which could be mitigated in the
> >>>>> future.
> >>>> Per my understanding, at least there are two places where virtio ring is
> >>>> less efficient than io_uring:
> >>>>
> >>> I might have misunderstood what you mean by virtio ring before. My
> >>> previous understanding of the virtio ring does not include the
> >>> virtio-blk driver.
> >>>
> >>>> 1) io_uring uses standalone submission queue(SQ) and completion queue(CQ),
> >>>> so no contention exists between submission and completion; but virtio queue
> >>>> requires per-vq lock in both submission and completion.
> >>>>
> >>> Yes, this is the bottleneck of the virtio-blk driver, even in the VM
> >>> case. We are also trying to optimize this lock.
> >>>
> >>> One way to mitigate it is making submission and completion happen in
> >>> the same core.
> >> QEMU sizes virtio-blk device num-queues to match the vCPU count. The
> >> virtio-blk driver is a blk-mq driver, so submissions and completions
> >> for a given virtqueue should already be processed by the same vCPU.
> >>
> >> Unless the device is misconfigured or the guest software chooses a
> >> custom vq:vCPU mapping, there should be no vq lock contention between
> >> vCPUs.
> >>
> >> I can think of a reason why submission and completion require
> >> coordination: descriptors are occupied until completion. The
> >> submission logic chooses free descriptors from the table. The
> >> completion logic returns free descriptors so they can be used in
> >> future submissions.
> >>
> > Yes, we need to maintain a head pointer of the free descriptors in
> > both submission and completion path.
>
>
> Not necessarily after IN_ORDER?
>

Sounds like a good idea.

Thanks,
Yongji

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