Message-ID: <Y1/LwKz60iU2izOZ@pc636>
Date:   Mon, 31 Oct 2022 14:21:04 +0100
From:   Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@...il.com>
To:     Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>
Cc:     "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
        Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@...il.com>, rcu@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kernel-team@...com,
        rostedt@...dmis.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH rcu 13/14] workqueue: Make queue_rcu_work() use
 call_rcu_flush()

On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 09:23:47PM +0000, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 09:48:19AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 06:25:30PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You guys might need to agree on the definition of "good" here.  Or maybe
> > > > understand the differences in your respective platforms' definitions of
> > > > "good".  ;-)
> > > >
> > > Indeed. Bad is when once per-millisecond infinitely :) At least in such use
> > > workload a can detect a power delta and power gain. Anyway, below is a new
> > > trace where i do not use "flush" variant for the kvfree_rcu():
> > > 
> > > <snip>
> > > 1. Home screen swipe:
> > >          rcuop/0-15      [003] d..1  1792.767750: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=1003 bl=10
> > >          rcuop/2-33      [002] d..1  1792.771717: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=934 bl=10
> > >          rcuop/3-40      [001] d..1  1794.811816: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=1508 bl=11
> > >          rcuop/1-26      [003] d..1  1797.116382: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=2127 bl=16
> > >          rcuop/4-48      [001] d..1  1797.124422: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=95 bl=10
> > >          rcuop/5-55      [002] d..1  1797.124731: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=143 bl=10
> > >          rcuop/6-62      [005] d..1  1798.911719: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=132 bl=10
> > >          rcuop/2-33      [002] d..1  1803.003966: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=3797 bl=29
> > >          rcuop/0-15      [003] d..1  1803.004707: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=2969 bl=23
> > > 2. App launches:
> > >          rcuop/4-48      [005] d..1  1831.087612: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=6141 bl=47
> > >          rcuop/7-69      [007] d..1  1831.095578: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=5464 bl=42
> > >          rcuop/5-55      [004] d..1  1832.703571: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=8461 bl=66
> > >          rcuop/0-15      [004] d..1  1833.731603: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=2548 bl=19
> > >          rcuop/1-26      [006] d..1  1833.743691: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=2567 bl=20
> > >          rcuop/2-33      [006] d..1  1833.744005: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=2359 bl=18
> > >          rcuop/3-40      [006] d..1  1833.744286: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=3681 bl=28
> > >          rcuop/4-48      [002] d..1  1838.079777: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=10444 bl=81
> > >          rcuop/7-69      [001] d..1  1838.080375: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=12572 bl=98
> > >            <...>-62      [002] d..1  1838.080646: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=14135 bl=110
> > >          rcuop/6-62      [000] d..1  1838.087722: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=10839 bl=84
> > >            <...>-62      [003] d..1  1839.227022: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=1834 bl=14
> > >            <...>-26      [001] d..1  1839.963315: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=5769 bl=45
> > >          rcuop/2-33      [001] d..1  1839.966485: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=3789 bl=29
> > >            <...>-40      [001] d..1  1839.966596: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=6425 bl=50
> > >          rcuop/2-33      [005] d..1  1840.541272: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=825 bl=10
> > >          rcuop/2-33      [005] d..1  1840.547724: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=44 bl=10
> > >          rcuop/2-33      [005] d..1  1841.075759: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=516 bl=10
> > >          rcuop/0-15      [002] d..1  1841.695716: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=6312 bl=49
> > >          rcuop/0-15      [003] d..1  1841.709714: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=39 bl=10
> > >          rcuop/5-55      [004] d..1  1843.112442: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=16007 bl=125
> > >          rcuop/5-55      [004] d..1  1843.115444: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=7901 bl=61
> > >          rcuop/6-62      [001] dn.1  1843.123983: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=8427 bl=65
> > >          rcuop/6-62      [006] d..1  1843.412383: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=981 bl=10
> > >          rcuop/0-15      [003] d..1  1844.659812: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=1851 bl=14
> > >          rcuop/0-15      [003] d..1  1844.667790: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=135 bl=10
> > > <snip>
> > > 
> > > it is much more better. But. As i wrote earlier there is a patch that i have submitted
> > > some time ago improving kvfree_rcu() batching:
> > > 
> > > <snip>
> > > commit 51824b780b719c53113dc39e027fbf670dc66028
> > > Author: Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) <urezki@...il.com>
> > > Date:   Thu Jun 30 18:33:35 2022 +0200
> > > 
> > >     rcu/kvfree: Update KFREE_DRAIN_JIFFIES interval
> > > 
> > >     Currently the monitor work is scheduled with a fixed interval of HZ/20,
> > >     which is roughly 50 milliseconds. The drawback of this approach is
> > >     low utilization of the 512 page slots in scenarios with infrequence
> > >     kvfree_rcu() calls.  For example on an Android system:
> > > <snip>
> > > 
> > > The trace that i posted was taken without it.
> > 
> > And if I am not getting too confused, that patch is now in mainline.
> > So it does make sense to rely on it, then.  ;-)
> 
> Vlad's patch to change the KFREE_DRAIN_JIFFIES to 5 seconds seems reasonable
> to me. However, can we unify KFREE_DRAIN_JIFFIES and LAZY_FLUSH_JIFFIES ?
> 
This is very good.

Below is a plot that i have taken during one use-case. It is about three
apps usage in parallel. It was done by running "monkey" test:

wget ftp://vps418301.ovh.net/incoming/monkey_3_apps_slab_usage_5_minutes.png

i set up three apps as usage scenario: Google Chrome, YoTube and Camera.
I logged the Slab metric from the /proc/meminfo. Sampling rate is 0.1 second.

Please have a look at results. It reflects what i am saying. non-flush
kvfree RCU variant makes a memory usage higher. What is not acceptable
for our mobile devices and workloads.

>
> One at 5 and other at 10 seems odd, especially because the former seems to
> negate the effects of the latter and anyone tweaking that in the future (say
> via new command line options) should probably tweak them together to increase
> batching.
> 
Well. Convert 5 seconds to 10? What will it solve for you? We can do it
and from a kvfree_rcu() perspective nothing really is changed.

> Testing shows significantly better batching with Vlad's updates, however I am
> wondering why the rcu_callback fires in pairs like that from separate
> kworkers:
> 
>      kworker/6:1-157     [006] d..1   288.861610: rcu_callback: rcu_preempt  rhp=0000000079b895f9 func=rcu_work_rcufn 1214
>      kworker/4:2-158     [004]  d..1   288.861612: rcu_callback: rcu_preempt rhp=00000000d83fcc90 func=rcu_work_rcufn 798
> 
> I wonder if the queued kwork is executing twice accidentally, or something.
>
Because a kfree_rcu_cpu() is a per-cpu thing.

> This kernel does have the additional trace patch below, fyi.
> 
> Another thought I have is, if we can just keep the kvfree_rcu() mapped to
> call_rcu() via a config option say CONFIG_RCU_LAZY_KFREE, or something.
>
I am not sure you need it, really. If you wake-up "rcuop" or whatever
with 0.5 second interval or with 5 seconds interval you will not notice
anything in terms of power between both.

--
Uladzislau Rezki

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