linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v7 6/9] sched/fair: Add sched group latency support

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Message-ID: <CAKfTPtDu=c-psGnHkoWSPRWoh1Z0VBBfsN++g+krv4B1SJmFjg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 3 Nov 2022 18:02:56 +0100
From:   Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
To:     Qais Yousef <qyousef@...alina.io>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 6/9] sched/fair: Add sched group latency support

On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 15:27, Qais Yousef <qyousef@...alina.io> wrote:
>
> On 11/03/22 09:46, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 20:28, Qais Yousef <qyousef@...alina.io> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 10/28/22 11:34, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > > Task can set its latency priority with sched_setattr(), which is then used
> > > > to set the latency offset of its sched_enity, but sched group entities
> > > > still have the default latency offset value.
> > > >
> > > > Add a latency.nice field in cpu cgroup controller to set the latency
> > > > priority of the group similarly to sched_setattr(). The latency priority
> > > > is then used to set the offset of the sched_entities of the group.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >  Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst |  8 ++++
> > > >  kernel/sched/core.c                     | 52 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  kernel/sched/fair.c                     | 33 ++++++++++++++++
> > > >  kernel/sched/sched.h                    |  4 ++
> > > >  4 files changed, 97 insertions(+)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
> > > > index be4a77baf784..d8ae7e411f9c 100644
> > > > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
> > > > @@ -1095,6 +1095,14 @@ All time durations are in microseconds.
> > > >          values similar to the sched_setattr(2). This maximum utilization
> > > >          value is used to clamp the task specific maximum utilization clamp.
> > > >
> > > > +  cpu.latency.nice
> > > > +     A read-write single value file which exists on non-root
> > > > +     cgroups.  The default is "0".
> > > > +
> > > > +     The nice value is in the range [-20, 19].
> > > > +
> > > > +     This interface file allows reading and setting latency using the
> > > > +     same values used by sched_setattr(2).
> > >
> > > I'm still not sure about this [1].
> >
> > I'm still not sure about what you are trying to say here ...
> >
> > This is about setting a latency nice prio to a group level.
> >
> > >
> > > In some scenarios we'd like to get the effective latency_nice of the task. How
> > > will the task inherit the cgroup value or be impacted by it?
> > >
> > > For example if there are tasks that belong to a latency sensitive cgroup; and
> > > I'd like to skip some searches in EAS to improve that latency sensitivity - how
> > > would I extract this info in EAS path given these tasks are using default
> > > latency_nice value? And if should happen if their latency_nice is set to
> > > something else other than default?
> > >
> > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221012160734.hrkb5jcjdq7r23pr@wubuntu/
> >
> > Hmm so you are speaking about something that is not part of the patch.
> > Let focus on the patchset for now
>
> I am focusing on this patchset. Isn't this an essential part of the design?
> Once the interface is out we can't change it. As it stands, I can't see how it

So, are you speaking about the interface i.e. setting a value between [-20:19]

> can be used to replace prefer_idle in cgroup as used in Android. I can't see
> how this could happen if we don't define how the task will inherit the cgroup
> value. If we can, mind elaborating how please?

Or how to take into account the value set for a cgroup ?

Regarding the behavior, the rule remains the same that a sched_entity
attached to a cgroup will not get more (latency in this case) than
what has been set for the group entity.

>
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Qais Yousef