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Date:   Thu, 3 Nov 2022 17:20:22 +0800
From:   Song Zhang <zhangsong34@...wei.com>
To:     Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
CC:     <mingo@...hat.com>, <peterz@...radead.org>,
        <juri.lelli@...hat.com>, <mcgrof@...nel.org>,
        <keescook@...omium.org>, <yzaikin@...gle.com>,
        <dietmar.eggemann@....com>, <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        <bsegall@...gle.com>, <mgorman@...e.de>, <bristot@...hat.com>,
        <vschneid@...hat.com>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Introduce priority load balance for CFS



On 2022/11/3 16:33, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 04:01, Song Zhang <zhangsong34@...wei.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your reply!
>>
>> On 2022/11/3 2:01, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 04:54, Song Zhang <zhangsong34@...wei.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> This really looks like a v3 of
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220810015636.3865248-1-zhangsong34@huawei.com/
>>>
>>> Please keep versioning.
>>>
>>>> Add a new sysctl interface:
>>>> /proc/sys/kernel/sched_prio_load_balance_enabled
>>>
>>> We don't want to add more sysctl knobs for the scheduler, we even
>>> removed some. Knob usually means that you want to fix your use case
>>> but the solution doesn't make sense for all cases.
>>>
>>
>> OK, I will remove this knobs later.
>>
>>>>
>>>> 0: default behavior
>>>> 1: enable priority load balance for CFS
>>>>
>>>> For co-location with idle and non-idle tasks, when CFS do load balance,
>>>> it is reasonable to prefer migrating non-idle tasks and migrating idle
>>>> tasks lastly. This will reduce the interference by SCHED_IDLE tasks
>>>> as much as possible.
>>>
>>> I don't agree that it's always the best choice to migrate a non-idle task 1st.
>>>
>>> CPU0 has 1 non idle task and CPU1 has 1 non idle task and hundreds of
>>> idle task and there is an imbalance between the 2 CPUS: migrating the
>>> non idle task from CPU1 to CPU0 is not the best choice
>>>
>>
>> If the non idle task on CPU1 is running or cache hot, it cannot be
>> migrated and idle tasks can also be migrated from CPU1 to CPU0. So I
>> think it does not matter.
> 
> What I mean is that migrating non idle tasks first is not a universal
> win and not always what we want.
> 

But migrating online tasks first is mostly a trade-off that 
non-idle(Latency Sensitive) tasks can obtain more CPU time and minimize 
the interference caused by IDLE tasks. I think this makes sense in most 
cases, or you can point out what else I need to think about it ?

Best regards.

>>
>>>>
>>>> Testcase:
>>>> - Spawn large number of idle(SCHED_IDLE) tasks occupy CPUs
>>>
>>> What do you mean by a large number ?
>>>
>>>> - Let non-idle tasks compete with idle tasks for CPU time.
>>>>
>>>> Using schbench to test non-idle tasks latency:
>>>> $ ./schbench -m 1 -t 10 -r 30 -R 200
>>>
>>> How many CPUs do you have ?
>>>
>>
>> OK, some details may not be mentioned.
>> My virtual machine has 8 CPUs running with a schbench process and 5000
>> idle tasks. The idle task is a while dead loop process below:
> 
> How can you care about latency when you start 10 workers on 8 vCPUs
> with 5000 non idle threads ?
> 

No no no... spawn 5000 idle(SCHED_IDLE) processes not 5000 non-idle 
threads, and with 10 non-idle schbench workers on 8 vCPUs.

>>
>> $ cat idle_process.c
>> int main()
>> {
>>           int i = 0;
>>           while(1) {
>>                   usleep(500);
>>                   for(i = 0; i < 1000000; i++);
>>           }
>> }
>>
>> You can compile and spawn 5000 idle(SCHED_IDLE) tasks occupying 8 CPUs
>> and execute schbench command to test it.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Test result:
>>>> 1.Default behavior
>>>> Latency percentiles (usec) runtime 30 (s) (4562 total samples)
>>>>           50.0th: 62528 (2281 samples)
>>>>           75.0th: 623616 (1141 samples)
>>>>           90.0th: 764928 (687 samples)
>>>>           95.0th: 824320 (225 samples)
>>>>           *99.0th: 920576 (183 samples)
>>>>           99.5th: 953344 (23 samples)
>>>>           99.9th: 1008640 (18 samples)
>>>>           min=9, max=1074466
>>>>
>>>> 2.Enable priority load balance
>>>> Latency percentiles (usec) runtime 30 (s) (4391 total samples)
>>>>           50.0th: 22624 (2204 samples)
>>>>           75.0th: 48832 (1092 samples)
>>>>           90.0th: 85376 (657 samples)
>>>>           95.0th: 113280 (220 samples)
>>>>           *99.0th: 182528 (175 samples)
>>>>           99.5th: 206592 (22 samples)
>>>>           99.9th: 290304 (17 samples)
>>>>           min=6, max=351815
>>>>
>>>>   From percentile details, we see the benefit of priority load balance
>>>> that 95% of non-idle tasks latencies stays no more than 113ms, while
>>>
>>> But even 113ms seems quite a large number if there is anything else
>>> but 10 schbench workers and a bunch of idle threads that are running.
>>>
>>>> non-idle tasks latencies has got almost 50% over 600ms if priority
>>>> load balance not enabled.
>>>
>>> Als have you considered enabling sched_feature LB_MIN ?
>>>
>>
>> I have tried to echo LB_MIN > /sys/kernel/debug/sched/features, but this
>> feature seems make no sense.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Song Zhang <zhangsong34@...wei.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    include/linux/sched/sysctl.h |  4 +++
>>>>    init/Kconfig                 | 10 ++++++
>>>>    kernel/sched/core.c          |  3 ++
>>>>    kernel/sched/fair.c          | 61 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>>>    kernel/sched/sched.h         |  3 ++
>>>>    kernel/sysctl.c              | 11 +++++++
>>>>    6 files changed, 91 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/sched/sysctl.h b/include/linux/sched/sysctl.h
>>>> index 303ee7dd0c7e..9b3673269ecc 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/sched/sysctl.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/sched/sysctl.h
>>>> @@ -32,6 +32,10 @@ extern unsigned int sysctl_numa_balancing_promote_rate_limit;
>>>>    #define sysctl_numa_balancing_mode     0
>>>>    #endif
>>>>
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +extern unsigned int sysctl_sched_prio_load_balance_enabled;
>>>> +#endif
>>>> +
>>>>    int sysctl_numa_balancing(struct ctl_table *table, int write, void *buffer,
>>>>                   size_t *lenp, loff_t *ppos);
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/init/Kconfig b/init/Kconfig
>>>> index 694f7c160c9c..b0dfe6701218 100644
>>>> --- a/init/Kconfig
>>>> +++ b/init/Kconfig
>>>> @@ -1026,6 +1026,16 @@ config CFS_BANDWIDTH
>>>>             restriction.
>>>>             See Documentation/scheduler/sched-bwc.rst for more information.
>>>>
>>>> +config SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +       bool "Priority load balance for CFS"
>>>> +       depends on SMP
>>>> +       default n
>>>> +       help
>>>> +         This feature enable CFS priority load balance to reduce
>>>> +         non-idle tasks latency interferenced by SCHED_IDLE tasks.
>>>> +         It prefer migrating non-idle tasks firstly and
>>>> +         migrating SCHED_IDLE tasks lastly.
>>>> +
>>>>    config RT_GROUP_SCHED
>>>>           bool "Group scheduling for SCHED_RR/FIFO"
>>>>           depends on CGROUP_SCHED
>>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
>>>> index 5800b0623ff3..9be35431fdd5 100644
>>>> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
>>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
>>>> @@ -9731,6 +9731,9 @@ void __init sched_init(void)
>>>>                   rq->max_idle_balance_cost = sysctl_sched_migration_cost;
>>>>
>>>>                   INIT_LIST_HEAD(&rq->cfs_tasks);
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +               INIT_LIST_HEAD(&rq->cfs_idle_tasks);
>>>> +#endif
>>>>
>>>>                   rq_attach_root(rq, &def_root_domain);
>>>>    #ifdef CONFIG_NO_HZ_COMMON
>>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>> index e4a0b8bd941c..bdeb04324f0c 100644
>>>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>> @@ -139,6 +139,10 @@ static int __init setup_sched_thermal_decay_shift(char *str)
>>>>    }
>>>>    __setup("sched_thermal_decay_shift=", setup_sched_thermal_decay_shift);
>>>>
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +unsigned int sysctl_sched_prio_load_balance_enabled;
>>>> +#endif
>>>> +
>>>>    #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
>>>>    /*
>>>>     * For asym packing, by default the lower numbered CPU has higher priority.
>>>> @@ -3199,6 +3203,21 @@ static inline void update_scan_period(struct task_struct *p, int new_cpu)
>>>>
>>>>    #endif /* CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING */
>>>>
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +static void
>>>> +adjust_rq_cfs_tasks(
>>>> +       void (*list_op)(struct list_head *, struct list_head *),
>>>> +       struct rq *rq,
>>>> +       struct sched_entity *se)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       if (sysctl_sched_prio_load_balance_enabled &&
>>>> +               task_has_idle_policy(task_of(se)))
>>>> +               (*list_op)(&se->group_node, &rq->cfs_idle_tasks);
>>>> +       else
>>>> +               (*list_op)(&se->group_node, &rq->cfs_tasks);
>>>> +}
>>>> +#endif
>>>> +
>>>>    static void
>>>>    account_entity_enqueue(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
>>>>    {
>>>> @@ -3208,7 +3227,11 @@ account_entity_enqueue(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
>>>>                   struct rq *rq = rq_of(cfs_rq);
>>>>
>>>>                   account_numa_enqueue(rq, task_of(se));
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +               adjust_rq_cfs_tasks(list_add, rq, se);
>>>> +#else
>>>>                   list_add(&se->group_node, &rq->cfs_tasks);
>>>> +#endif
>>>>           }
>>>>    #endif
>>>>           cfs_rq->nr_running++;
>>>> @@ -7631,7 +7654,11 @@ done: __maybe_unused;
>>>>            * the list, so our cfs_tasks list becomes MRU
>>>>            * one.
>>>>            */
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +       adjust_rq_cfs_tasks(list_move, rq, &p->se);
>>>> +#else
>>>>           list_move(&p->se.group_node, &rq->cfs_tasks);
>>>> +#endif
>>>>    #endif
>>>>
>>>>           if (hrtick_enabled_fair(rq))
>>>> @@ -8156,11 +8183,18 @@ static void detach_task(struct task_struct *p, struct lb_env *env)
>>>>    static struct task_struct *detach_one_task(struct lb_env *env)
>>>>    {
>>>>           struct task_struct *p;
>>>> +       struct list_head *tasks = &env->src_rq->cfs_tasks;
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +       bool has_detach_idle_tasks = false;
>>>> +#endif
>>>>
>>>>           lockdep_assert_rq_held(env->src_rq);
>>>>
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +again:
>>>> +#endif
>>>>           list_for_each_entry_reverse(p,
>>>> -                       &env->src_rq->cfs_tasks, se.group_node) {
>>>> +                       tasks, se.group_node) {
>>>>                   if (!can_migrate_task(p, env))
>>>>                           continue;
>>>>
>>>> @@ -8175,6 +8209,13 @@ static struct task_struct *detach_one_task(struct lb_env *env)
>>>>                   schedstat_inc(env->sd->lb_gained[env->idle]);
>>>>                   return p;
>>>>           }
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +       if (sysctl_sched_prio_load_balance_enabled && !has_detach_idle_tasks) {
>>>> +               has_detach_idle_tasks = true;
>>>> +               tasks = &env->src_rq->cfs_idle_tasks;
>>>> +               goto again;
>>>> +       }
>>>> +#endif
>>>>           return NULL;
>>>>    }
>>>>
>>>> @@ -8190,6 +8231,9 @@ static int detach_tasks(struct lb_env *env)
>>>>           unsigned long util, load;
>>>>           struct task_struct *p;
>>>>           int detached = 0;
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +       bool has_detach_idle_tasks = false;
>>>> +#endif
>>>>
>>>>           lockdep_assert_rq_held(env->src_rq);
>>>>
>>>> @@ -8205,6 +8249,9 @@ static int detach_tasks(struct lb_env *env)
>>>>           if (env->imbalance <= 0)
>>>>                   return 0;
>>>>
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +again:
>>>> +#endif
>>>>           while (!list_empty(tasks)) {
>>>>                   /*
>>>>                    * We don't want to steal all, otherwise we may be treated likewise,
>>>> @@ -8310,6 +8357,14 @@ static int detach_tasks(struct lb_env *env)
>>>>                   list_move(&p->se.group_node, tasks);
>>>>           }
>>>>
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +       if (sysctl_sched_prio_load_balance_enabled &&
>>>> +               !has_detach_idle_tasks && env->imbalance > 0) {
>>>> +               has_detach_idle_tasks = true;
>>>> +               tasks = &env->src_rq->cfs_idle_tasks;
>>>> +               goto again;
>>>> +       }
>>>> +#endif
>>>>           /*
>>>>            * Right now, this is one of only two places we collect this stat
>>>>            * so we can safely collect detach_one_task() stats here rather
>>>> @@ -11814,7 +11869,11 @@ static void set_next_task_fair(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, bool first)
>>>>                    * Move the next running task to the front of the list, so our
>>>>                    * cfs_tasks list becomes MRU one.
>>>>                    */
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +               adjust_rq_cfs_tasks(list_move, rq, se);
>>>> +#else
>>>>                   list_move(&se->group_node, &rq->cfs_tasks);
>>>> +#endif
>>>>           }
>>>>    #endif
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/sched.h b/kernel/sched/sched.h
>>>> index 1644242ecd11..1b831c05ba30 100644
>>>> --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
>>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
>>>> @@ -1053,6 +1053,9 @@ struct rq {
>>>>           int                     online;
>>>>
>>>>           struct list_head cfs_tasks;
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +       struct list_head cfs_idle_tasks;
>>>> +#endif
>>>>
>>>>           struct sched_avg        avg_rt;
>>>>           struct sched_avg        avg_dl;
>>>> diff --git a/kernel/sysctl.c b/kernel/sysctl.c
>>>> index 188c305aeb8b..5fc0f9ffb675 100644
>>>> --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
>>>> +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
>>>> @@ -2090,6 +2090,17 @@ static struct ctl_table kern_table[] = {
>>>>                   .extra1         = SYSCTL_ONE,
>>>>                   .extra2         = SYSCTL_INT_MAX,
>>>>           },
>>>> +#endif
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PRIO_LB
>>>> +       {
>>>> +               .procname       = "sched_prio_load_balance_enabled",
>>>> +               .data           = &sysctl_sched_prio_load_balance_enabled,
>>>> +               .maxlen         = sizeof(unsigned int),
>>>> +               .mode           = 0644,
>>>> +               .proc_handler   = proc_dointvec_minmax,
>>>> +               .extra1         = SYSCTL_ZERO,
>>>> +               .extra2         = SYSCTL_ONE,
>>>> +       },
>>>>    #endif
>>>>           { }
>>>>    };
>>>> --
>>>> 2.27.0
>>>>
>>> .
> .

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