linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH bpf RESEND 2/4] bpf: Remove size check for sk in bpf_skb_is_valid

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Date:   Fri, 4 Nov 2022 16:37:41 -0700
From:   Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>
To:     Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com>
Cc:     "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
        Yang Jihong <yangjihong1@...wei.com>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf RESEND 2/4] bpf: Remove size check for sk in
 bpf_skb_is_valid_access for 32-bit architecture

On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 3:43 PM Andrii Nakryiko
<andrii.nakryiko@...il.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 11:15 AM Alexei Starovoitov
> <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 4:23 AM Russell King (Oracle)
> > <linux@...linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 03, 2022 at 05:21:16PM +0800, Yang Jihong wrote:
> > > > The error code -EACCES is returned when bpf prog is tested in 32-bit environment,
> > > > This is because bpf_object__relocate modifies the instruction to change memory
> > > > size to 4 bytes, as shown in the following messages:
> > > >
> > > > libbpf: prog 'kfunc_call_test1': relo #2: matching candidate #0 <byte_off> [18342] struct __sk_buff.sk (0:30:0 @ offset 168)
> > > > libbpf: prog 'kfunc_call_test1': relo #2: patched insn #1 (LDX/ST/STX) off 168 -> 168
> > > > libbpf: prog 'kfunc_call_test1': relo #2: patched insn #1 (LDX/ST/STX) mem_sz 8 -> 4
> > > >
> > > > As a result, the bpf_skb_is_valid_access check fails. For 32-bit architecture,
> > > > unnecessary checks need to be deleted.
> > >
> > > Isn't the purpose of this check to ensure that the entire pointer is
> > > written, and BPF can't write half of it?
> > >
> > >
> > > >       case offsetof(struct __sk_buff, sk):
> > > > -             if (type == BPF_WRITE || size != sizeof(__u64))
> > > > -                     return false;
> > >
> > > Wouldn't "(size != sizeof(struct bpf_sock *) && size != sizeof(__u64))"
> > > be more appropriate here, so 32-bit can only write the 32-bit pointer
> > > or the full 64-bit value, and 64-bit can only write the 64-bit pointer?
> > > Or is there a reason not to? bpf folk?
> >
> > You're correct. The patch is completely wrong.
> > The bug is elsewhere.
>
> So I looked at this a bit (and replied to the old version of this
> patch). What happens in the kernel is that we expect 64-bit load but
> rewrite it to 32-bit load on 32-bit architectures (because we just use
> sizeof(struct sk_buff, sk) which is 4 bytes on 32-bit arch.
>
> The problem here is that libbpf adjusts such pointer accesses from
> 8-byte read to 4-byte reads for preserve_access_index (because libbpf
> sees that pointer is really 4 byte long), which is what we actually
> want in the general case. Here the assumption was made before CO-RE
> that __sk_buff is a stable (and fake) UAPI and the correct BPF program
> will access sk as a 64-bit pointer because BPF-side pointers always
> appear as 64-bit.
>
> But from a correctness standpoint I think it should be fine to enable
> both 32- and 64-bit loads for such pointers in __sk_buff for 32-bit
> host arch. This will work well with CO-RE and will be correctly
> rewritten to 32-bit or 64-bit accesses, depending on host
> architecture.
>
> We should still reject 32-bit load on 64-bit host arch, though.

Replied in the other thread as well :)
The CO_RE screws up access here.
Since it's a load of a pointer the verifier has to see it as a 8-byte load.
When CO-RE converts it to 4 byte the verifier won't recognize it
as a pointer load anymore.
We cannot easily convert 64-bit BPF ISA into 32-bit.
It's a massive amount of work.