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Date:   Thu, 10 Nov 2022 12:03:24 +0000
From:   Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>
To:     Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@....com>
Cc:     Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Lennart Poettering <lennart@...ttering.net>,
        Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@...waw.pl>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@....com>,
        Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>,
        Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@....com>,
        Topi Miettinen <toiwoton@...il.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-abi-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net, nd@....com, shuah@...nel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] mm: Implement memory-deny-write-execute as a prctl

On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 11:27:14AM +0000, Joey Gouly wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 11:51:00AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 04:04:56PM +0100, Joey Gouly wrote:
> > > diff --git a/mm/mmap.c b/mm/mmap.c
> > > index 099468aee4d8..42eaf6683216 100644
> > > --- a/mm/mmap.c
> > > +++ b/mm/mmap.c
> > > @@ -1409,6 +1409,9 @@ unsigned long do_mmap(struct file *file, unsigned long addr,
> > >  			vm_flags |= VM_NORESERVE;
> > >  	}
> > >  
> > > +	if (map_deny_write_exec(NULL, vm_flags))
> > > +		return -EACCES;
> > > +
> > 
> > This seems like the wrong place to do the check -- that the vma argument
> > is a hard-coded "NULL" is evidence that something is wrong. Shouldn't
> > it live in mmap_region()? What happens with MAP_FIXED, when there is
> > an underlying vma? i.e. an MAP_FIXED will, I think, bypass the intended
> > check. For example, we had "c" above:
> > 
> >      c)	mmap(PROT_READ);
> > 	mprotect(PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC);		// fails
> > 
> > But this would allow another case:
> > 
> >      e)	addr = mmap(..., PROT_READ, ...);
> > 	mmap(addr, ..., PROT_READ | PROT_EXEC, MAP_FIXED, ...);	// passes
> 
> I can move the check into mmap_region() but it won't fix the MAP_FIXED
> example that you showed here.
> 
> mmap_region() calls do_mas_munmap(..) which will unmap overlapping regions.
> However the `vma` for the 'old' region is not kept around, and a new vma will
> be allocated later on "vma = vm_area_alloc(mm);", and the vm_flags are just set
> to what is passed into mmap_region(), so map_deny_write_exec(vma, vm_flags)
> will just be as good as passing NULL.
> 
> It's possible to save the vm_flags from the region that is unmapped, but Catalin
> suggested it might be better if that is part of a later extension, what do you
> think? 

I thought initially we should keep the behaviour close to what systemd
achieves via SECCOMP while only relaxing an mprotect(PROT_EXEC) if the
vma is already executable (i.e. check actual permission change not just
the PROT_* flags).

We could pass the old vm_flags for that region (and maybe drop the vma
pointer entirely, just check old and new vm_flags). But this feels like
tightening slightly systemd's MDWE approach. If user-space doesn't get
confused by this, I'm fine to go with it. Otherwise we can add a new
flag later for this behaviour

I guess that's more of a question for Topi on whether point tightening
point (e) is feasible/desirable.

-- 
Catalin

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