Date:   Fri, 11 Nov 2022 18:15:14 +0100
From:   Pali Rohár <pali@...nel.org>
To:     Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@...nel.org>,
        Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@...tlin.com>,
        Krzysztof Wilczyński <kw@...ux.com>
Cc:     linux-pci@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: mvebu: Use devm_request_irq() for registering
 interrupt handler

On Friday 11 November 2022 13:56:36 Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 11:03:06AM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Monday 12 September 2022 10:55:47 Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 10:48:08AM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > On Monday 12 September 2022 10:01:32 Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 05:45:16PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday 29 August 2022 18:51:09 Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday 10 July 2022 02:06:59 Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday 09 July 2022 18:44:30 Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > > > > > > [+cc Marc, since he commented on this]
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 09, 2022 at 04:31:51PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday 01 July 2022 16:29:41 Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday 23 June 2022 11:27:47 Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 02:28:17PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Same as in commit a3b69dd0ad62 ("Revert "PCI: aardvark: Rewrite IRQ code to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > chained IRQ handler"") for pci-aardvark driver, use devm_request_irq()
> > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of chained IRQ handler in pci-mvebu.c driver.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This change fixes affinity support and allows to pin interrupts from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > different PCIe controllers to different CPU cores.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Several other drivers use irq_set_chained_handler_and_data().  Do any
> > > > > > > > > > > > of them need similar changes?  The commit log suggests that using
> > > > > > > > > > > > chained IRQ handlers breaks affinity support.  But perhaps that's not
> > > > > > > > > > > > the case and the real culprit is some other difference between mvebu
> > > > > > > > > > > > and the other drivers.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > And there is another reason to not use irq_set_chained_handler_and_data
> > > > > > > > > > > and instead use devm_request_irq(). Armada XP has some interrupts
> > > > > > > > > > > shared and it looks like that irq_set_chained_handler_and_data() API
> > > > > > > > > > > does not handle shared interrupt sources too.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > I can update commit message to mention also this fact.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Anything needed from me to improve this fix?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > My impression from Marc's response [1] was that this patch would
> > > > > > > > > "break the contract the kernel has with userspace" and he didn't think
> > > > > > > > > this was acceptable.  But maybe I'm not understanding it correctly.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > This is argument which Marc use when he does not have any argument.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Support for dedicated INTx into pci-mvebu.c was introduced just recently
> > > > > > > > and I used irq_set_chained_handler_and_data() just because I thought it
> > > > > > > > is a good idea and did not know about all those issues with it. So there
> > > > > > > > cannot be any breakage by this patch.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I already converted other pci-aardvark.c driver to use
> > > > > > > > irq_set_chained_handler_and_data() API because wanted it... But at the
> > > > > > > > end _that conversion_ caused breakage of afinity support and so this
> > > > > > > > conversion had to be reverted:
> > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20220515125815.30157-1-pali@kernel.org/#t
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Based on his past decisions, above suggestions which cause _real_
> > > > > > > > breakage and his expressions like mvebu should be put into the trash,
> > > > > > > > I'm not going to listen him anymore. The only breaking is done by him.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > There are two arguments why to not use irq_set_chained_handler_and_data:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 1) It does not support afinity and therefore has negative performance
> > > > > > > >    impact on Armada platforms with more CPUs and more PCIe ports.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 2) It does not support shared interrupts and therefore it will break
> > > > > > > >    hardware on which interrupt lines are shares (mostly Armada XP).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So these issues have to be fixed and currently I see only option to
> > > > > > > > switch irq_set_chained_handler_and_data() to devm_request_irq() which I
> > > > > > > > did in this fixup patch.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Any progress here? This patch is waiting here since end of May and if
> > > > > > > something is going to be broken then it is this fact of ignoring reported
> > > > > > > issues and proposed patch. Do you better solution how to fix commit
> > > > > > > ec075262648f?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > After two weeks I'm reminding this fix patch again...
> > > > > 
> > > > > There is no point complaining about something you were asked
> > > > > to change, really - there is not.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You were given feedback, feel free to ignore it, it won't help
> > > > > getting this patch upstream - it is as simple as that, sorry.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Lorenzo
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not sure if I understand you, what do you mean that all patches
> > > > which depends on this are now automatically rejected or what?
> > > 
> > > I am not merging this code unless it is acked by an IRQ maintainer.
> > > 
> > > Is it clear enough ?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Lorenzo
> > 
> > So, could you then propose a solution how to fix this issue to allow one
> > interrupt to be shared with more devices, like it is needed for some
> > Armada platforms? Because I do not see a way how to do it without
> > IRQF_SHARED and without shared interrupt it is not possible to implement
> > any other pending features.
> > 
> > I'm feeling that since May there is just conclusion that all development
> > on the mvebu must be stopped as more people here do not like this
> > hardware and trying to do remove it or at least make it orphan.
> 
> Marc gave you a solution - we are going round in circles, it is getting
> boring, honestly.
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/874k0bf7f7.wl-maz@kernel.org

This is not the solution. As this does not allow to share one interrupt
by multiple devices / drivers, like devm_request_irq with IRQF_SHARED
flag. irq_set_chained_handler_and_data() can be used only by one device.
This was expressed more times in other threads, but seems it was
ignored.

In past I have already send patches for armada interrupt drivers and
they were rejected by Marc, who did not wanted to talk about them. And
in past already expressed that he is not interested in any more
development in Armada HW as by thinks it is broken hardware and his
devel board stopped working.

I'm really not going to implement anything new for people who already
expressed that would reject my contribution. Why would I do it?

Anyway, here we are dealing with REGRESSION in mainline kernel. Not a
new feature. Mainline kernel is currently broken and this my patch is
fixing it. Exactly same fix was already applied for other pci controller
driver.

Why it is disallowed to fix regression in kernel with exactly same
approach and same patch which was allowed for other drivers? Because it
really looks like that somebody is trying to ensure that Linux kernel
should stop working on existing hardware.

> Either you implement what he asks for or I drop this patch and all
> dependent ones from the PCI queue - apologies.
> 
> Lorenzo

So, please if you are going to drop patch series, and you do not like my
fix for mentioned issue, could you please fix the driver to work in
mainline kernel?

Do not take me wrong, but it is really problem if mainline kernel is
broken, developers like Greg are publicly talking that vendors,
distributors and other should update kernels to new versions and not
stay on the old one; and then other developers are rejecting fixes to
regression in new versions and basically are saying that people and
vendors should not upgrade kernels to new versions as it would stop
working on some hardware.

And I'm not even mentioned that there happened lot of other development
and cleanup in this area and everything is stopped and maybe now after
2 years would discarded, like some developers want as they do not like
some kind of hardware.

I'm really disappointed that I have to discuss about such thing.


If fixing regressions and bugs is not a priority for kernel and is first
subject to rewrite other parts of code and implement couple of new
features, then I think it is a good idea to stop being doing
development.

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