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Date:   Fri, 18 Nov 2022 12:09:02 +0100
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v1 20/20] mm: rename FOLL_FORCE to FOLL_PTRACE

On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 10:16:34AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Following the history of it is a big of a mess, because there's a
> number of renamings and re-organizations, but it seems to go back to
> 2007 and commit b6a2fea39318 ("mm: variable length argument support").

I went back and read parts of the discussions with Ollie, and the
.force=1 thing just magically appeared one day when we were sending
work-in-progress patches back and forth without mention of where it came
from :-/

And I certainly can't remember now..

Looking at it now, I have the same reaction as both you and Kees had, it
seems entirely superflous. So I'm all for trying to remove it.

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