Date:   Thu, 24 Nov 2022 01:43:42 +0000
From:   "Zhang, Qiang1" <qiang1.zhang@...el.com>
To:     "paulmck@...nel.org" <paulmck@...nel.org>
CC:     Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>,
        "joel@...lfernandes.org" <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
        "rcu@...r.kernel.org" <rcu@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] srcu: Add detection of boot CPU srcu_data
 structure's->srcu_cblist

On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 02:01:50AM +0000, Zhang, Qiang1 wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 07:20:50PM +0800, Zqiang wrote:
> > Before SRCU_SIZE_WAIT_CALL srcu_size_state is reached, the srcu
> > callback only insert to boot-CPU srcu_data structure's->srcu_cblist
> > and other CPU srcu_data structure's->srcu_cblist is always empty. so
> > before SRCU_SIZE_WAIT_CALL is reached, need to correctly check boot-CPU
> > pend cbs in srcu_might_be_idle().
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Zqiang <qiang1.zhang@...el.com>
> > ---
> >  kernel/rcu/srcutree.c | 7 +++++--
> >  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c b/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > index 6af031200580..6d9af9901765 100644
> > --- a/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > +++ b/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > @@ -1098,8 +1098,11 @@ static bool srcu_might_be_idle(struct srcu_struct *ssp)
> >  	unsigned long tlast;
> >  
> >  	check_init_srcu_struct(ssp);
> > -	/* If the local srcu_data structure has callbacks, not idle.  */
> > -	sdp = raw_cpu_ptr(ssp->sda);
> > +	/* If the boot CPU or local srcu_data structure has callbacks, not idle.  */
> > +	if (smp_load_acquire(&ssp->srcu_size_state) < SRCU_SIZE_WAIT_CALL)
> > +		sdp = per_cpu_ptr(ssp->sda, get_boot_cpu_id());
> > +	else
> > +		sdp = raw_cpu_ptr(ssp->sda);
> >
> 
> Hi Paul,  
> 
> For the convert_to_big  default configuration(SRCU_SIZING_AUTO), I found that the srcu is in
> SRCU_SIZE_SMALL state most of the time in the system, I think this change is meaningful.
> 
> Thoughts ?

>You are right that this change might make srcu_might_be_idle() return a
>more accurate value in the common case.  As things are now, some other
>CPU might just now have added a callback, but might not yet have started
>that new grace period.  In that case, we might expedite an SRCU grace
>period when we would not have otherwise done so.  However, this change
>would also increase contention on the get_boot_cpu_id() CPU's srcu_data
>structure's ->lock.
>
>So the result of that inaccurate return value is that the first two SRCU
>grace periods in a burst might be expedited instead of only the first one,
>and even then only if we hit a very narrow race window.
>
>Besides, this same thing can happen if two CPUs do synchronize_srcu()
>at the same time after a long-enough pause between grace periods.
>Both see no callbacks, so both ask for an expedited grace period.
>So again, the first two grace periods are expedited.
>
>As a result, I am having a very hard time justifying the increased
>lock contention.

Thanks reply,  I have another question, Is this srcu_data structure's->lock necessary?
the rcu_segcblist_pend_cbs() only check *tails[RCU_DONE_TAIL] is empty.
or can use rcu_segcblist_get_seglen(RCU_WAIT_TAIL + RCU_NEXT_READY_TAIL + RCU_NEXT_TAIL) 
instead of  rcu_segcblist_pend_cbs() to avoid locking? (although this is also inaccurate)

Thanks
Zqiang

>
>Am I missing something here?
>
>							Thanx, Paul
>
> Thanks
> Zqiang
> 
> 
> >While at it if someone is interested in documenting/commenting on the meaning of
> >all these SRCU_SIZE_* things, it would be much appreciated!
> >
> >In the initial stage(SRCU_SIZE_SMALL), there is no srcu_node structures, only initialized
> >per-CPU srcu_data structures, at this time, we only use boot-cpu srcu_data structures's ->srcu_cblist
> >to store srcu callbacks.  
> >if the contention of srcu_struct and srcu_data structure's->lock become busy,
> >transition to SRCU_SIZE_ALLOC.  allocated memory for srcu_node structure at end of the SRCU
> >grace period.   
> >if allocated success,  transition to SRCU_SIZE_WAIT_BARRIER,  in this state, invoke
> >srcu_barrier() will iterate over all possible CPUs, but we still only use boot-CPU srcu_cblist to store callbacks.
> >the task calling call_srcu() may have access to a new srcu_node structure or may not, 
> >because call_srcu() is protected by SRCU, we may not transition to SRCU_SIZE_WAIT_CALL quickly,
> >need to wait in this state for a SRCU grace period to end.
> >After transition to SRCU_SIZE_WAIT_CALL, we enqueue srcu callbacks to own srcu_data structures's ->srcu_cblist.
> >
> >Does my description make my commit more detailed?
> >
> >Thanks
> >Zqiang
> >
> >
> 
> 
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >  	spin_lock_irqsave_rcu_node(sdp, flags);
> >  	if (rcu_segcblist_pend_cbs(&sdp->srcu_cblist)) {
> >  		spin_unlock_irqrestore_rcu_node(sdp, flags);
> > -- 
> > 2.25.1
> > 

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