linux-kernel - Re: [QUESTION] memcg page_counter seems broken in MADV

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Date:   Tue, 29 Nov 2022 09:49:25 -0800
From:   Yang Shi <shy828301@...il.com>
To:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
Cc:     Yongqiang Liu <liuyongqiang13@...wei.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        "akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        aarcange@...hat.com, hughd@...gle.com, mgorman@...e.de,
        cl@...two.org, zokeefe@...gle.com, rientjes@...gle.com,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, peterx@...hat.com,
        "Wangkefeng (OS Kernel Lab)" <wangkefeng.wang@...wei.com>,
        "zhangxiaoxu (A)" <zhangxiaoxu5@...wei.com>,
        kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com, Lu Jialin <lujialin4@...wei.com>
Subject: Re: [QUESTION] memcg page_counter seems broken in MADV_DONTNEED with
 THP enabled

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 12:10 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon 28-11-22 12:01:37, Yang Shi wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 5:10 AM Yongqiang Liu <liuyongqiang13@...wei.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > We use mm_counter to how much a process physical memory used. Meanwhile,
> > > page_counter of a memcg is used to count how much a cgroup physical
> > > memory used.
> > > If a cgroup only contains a process, they looks almost the same. But with
> > > THP enabled, sometimes memory.usage_in_bytes in memcg may be twice or
> > > more than rss
> > > in proc/[pid]/smaps_rollup as follow:
> [...]
> > > node_page_stat which shows in meminfo was also decreased. the
> > > __split_huge_pmd
> > > seems free no physical memory unless the total THP was free.I am
> > > confused which
> > > one is the true physical memory used of a process.
> >
> > This should be caused by the deferred split of THP. When MADV_DONTNEED
> > is called on the partial of the map, the huge PMD is split, but the
> > THP itself will not be split until the memory pressure is hit (global
> > or memcg limit). So the unmapped sub pages are actually not freed
> > until that point. So the mm counter is decreased due to the zapping
> > but the physical pages are not actually freed then uncharged from
> > memcg.
>
> Yes, and this is not really bound to THP. Consider a page cache. It can
> be accessed via syscalls when it doesn't correspondent to rss at all
> while it is still charged to a memcg. Or it can be mapped and then later
> unmapped so it disappear from rss while it is still charged until it
> gets reclaimed by the memory pressure. Or it can be an in-memory object
> that is not bound to any process life time (e.g. tmpfs). Or it can be a
> kernel memory charged to a memcg which is not covered by rss because it
> is either not mapped or it is unknown to rss counters.

Yes, good points. Thanks, Michal. And one more thing worth mentioning
is that the RSS shown by ps or smaps is different from the RSS shown
by memcg.

> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs