linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/2] time/namespace: Forbid timens page faults under kthread_use

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Message-ID: <CAG48ez2AqgQJKXYdLXh-WaoMuKBgCUuVge_8RAghKBDhfkeJJw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 29 Nov 2022 23:34:51 +0100
From:   Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>
To:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Cc:     Andrei Vagin <avagin@...il.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] time/namespace: Forbid timens page faults under kthread_use_mm()

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 11:28 PM Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 10:18 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 29 2022 at 20:18, Jann Horn wrote:
> >
> > > find_timens_vvar_page() doesn't work when current's timens does not match
> > > the timens associated with current->mm.
> > > v6 of the series adding this code [1] had some complicated code to deal
> > > with this case, but v7 [2] removed that.
> > >
> > > Since the vvar region is designed to only be accessed by vDSO code, and
> > > vDSO code can't run in kthread context, it should be fine to error out in
> > > this case.
> >
> > Should? Either it is correct or not.
> >
> > But the way more interesting question is:
> >
> > >  struct page *find_timens_vvar_page(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > >  {
> > > +     /*
> > > +      * We can't handle faults where current's timens does not match the
> > > +      * timens associated with the mm_struct. This can happen if a page fault
> > > +      * occurs in a kthread that is using kthread_use_mm().
> > > +      */
> >
> > How does a kthread, which obvioulsy did kthread_use_mm(), end up trying to
> > fault in the time namespace vvar page?
>
> By doing copy_from_user()? That's what kthread_use_mm() is for, right?
> If you look through the users of kthread_use_mm(), most of them use it
> to be able to use the normal usercopy functions. See the users in usb
> gadget code, and the VFIO code, and the AMD GPU code. And if you're
> doing usercopy on userspace addresses, then you can basically always
> hit a vvar page - even if you had somehow checked beforehand what the
> address points to, userspace could have moved a vvar region in that
> spot in the meantime.
>
> That said, I haven't actually tried it. But I don't think there's
> anything in the page fault handling path that distinguishes between
> copy_from_user() faults in kthread context and other userspace faults
> in a relevant way?

Ah, but I guess even if this can happen, it's not actually as bad as I
thought, since kthreads are in init_time_ns, and init_time_ns doesn't
have a ->vvar_page, so this isn't going to lead to anything terrible
like page UAF, and it's just a garbage-in-garbage-out scenario.