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Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 18:29:32 -0800
From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@...gle.com>
To: Daniel Verkamp <dverkamp@...omium.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mm/memfd: Add write seals when apply SEAL_EXEC to
executable memfd
Hi Daniel
Thanks for your review.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 3:24 PM Daniel Verkamp <dverkamp@...omium.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 5:36 PM <jeffxu@...omium.org> wrote:
> >
> > From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@...omium.org>
> >
> > When apply F_SEAL_EXEC to an executable memfd, add write seals also to
> > prevent modification of memfd.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@...omium.org>
> > ---
> > mm/memfd.c | 3 +++
> > tools/testing/selftests/memfd/memfd_test.c | 25 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 2 files changed, 28 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/memfd.c b/mm/memfd.c
> > index 96dcfbfed09e..3a04c0698957 100644
> > --- a/mm/memfd.c
> > +++ b/mm/memfd.c
> > @@ -222,6 +222,9 @@ static int memfd_add_seals(struct file *file, unsigned int seals)
> > }
> > }
> >
> > + if (seals & F_SEAL_EXEC && inode->i_mode & 0111)
> > + seals |= F_ALL_SEALS;
> > +
> > *file_seals |= seals;
> > error = 0;
> >
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> (Following up on some discussion on the original review, sorry for any
> duplicate comments.)
>
> Making F_SEAL_EXEC imply all seals (including F_SEAL_SEAL) seems a bit
> confusing. This at least needs documentation to make it clear.
>
> Rather than silently adding other seals, perhaps we could return an
> error if the caller requests F_SEAL_EXEC but not the write seals, so
> the other seals would have to be explicitly listed in the application
> code. This would have the same net effect without making the
> F_SEAL_EXEC operation too magical.
>
If we take error out approach, application need to add
F_SEAL_SHRINK|F_SEAL_GROW|F_SEAL_WRITE|F_SEAL_FUTURE_WRITE
when F_SEAL_EXEC is used.
Personally I think it is a bit long. From an API point of view, we can
think of this as
sealing the whole executable instead of just "X" bit.
If there is a new type of write SEAL in future, all applications need
to be updated, that is much harder,
and updating the kernel is easier.
Maybe I should remove F_SEAL_SEAL, so this code is still correct if a
new type of "Non-Write" seal is added in future.
> Additionally, if the goal is to enforce W^X, I don't think this
> completely closes the gap. There will always be a period where it is
> both writable and executable with this API:
>
> 1. memfd_create(MFD_EXEC). Can't use MFD_NOEXEC since that would seal
> chmod(+x), so the memfd is W + X here.
> 2. write() code to the memfd.
> 3. fcntl(F_ADD_SEALS, F_SEAL_EXEC) to convert the memfd to !W + X.
>
> I think one of the attack vectors involved the attacker waiting for
> another process to create a memfd, pausing/delaying the victim
> process, overwriting the memfd with their own code, and calling exec()
> on it, which is still possible in the window between steps 1 and 3
> with this design.
>
There are also step 4.
4. call exec on the memfd,
In confused deputy attack, attacker wants to inject content into memfd
before step 4,
because step 4 is by a privilege process, attackers can gain root
escalation this way.
Ideally step 2 rewrites the whole memfd, (injecting content between
1 and 2 won't work), and
step 3 is the next line after 2, making the process to stop exactly
between 2 and 3 is not easy.
So enforcing W^X can reduce the attack surface. It also defines the
most secure way for dev,
or else, dev might:
- forget to apply the W seal.
- choose to apply X and W seal in multiple calls, thus adding a gap.
> Thanks,
> -- Daniel
Thanks
Jeff
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