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Message-ID: <Y5k0OmLAWD2wk7yL@lorien.usersys.redhat.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 21:26:02 -0500
From: Phil Auld <pauld@...hat.com>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
Vishal Chourasia <vishalc@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mingo@...hat.com,
vincent.guittot@...aro.org, vschneid@...hat.com,
srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, sshegde@...ux.ibm.com,
linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org, ritesh.list@...il.com,
aneesh.kumar@...ux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: sched/debug: CPU hotplug operation suffers in a large cpu systems
On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 10:41:25AM +1100 Michael Ellerman wrote:
> Phil Auld <pauld@...hat.com> writes:
> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 07:23:54AM +0100 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> >> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 02:17:58PM -0500, Phil Auld wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Nov 08, 2022 at 01:24:39PM +0100 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> >> > > On Tue, Nov 08, 2022 at 03:30:46PM +0530, Vishal Chourasia wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks Greg & Peter for your direction.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > While we pursue the idea of having debugfs based on kernfs, we thought about
> >> > > > having a boot time parameter which would disable creating and updating of the
> >> > > > sched_domain debugfs files and this would also be useful even when the kernfs
> >> > > > solution kicks in, as users who may not care about these debugfs files would
> >> > > > benefit from a faster CPU hotplug operation.
> >> > >
> >> > > Ick, no, you would be adding a new user/kernel api that you will be
> >> > > required to support for the next 20+ years. Just to get over a
> >> > > short-term issue before you solve the problem properly.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not convinced moving these files from debugfs to kernfs is the right
> >> > fix. That will take it from ~50 back to ~20 _minutes_ on these systems.
> >> > I don't think either of those numbers is reasonable.
> >> >
> >> > The issue as I see it is the full rebuild for every change with no way to
> >> > batch the changes. How about something like the below?
> >> >
> >> > This puts the domains/* files under the sched_verbose flag. About the only
> >> > thing under that flag now are the detailed topology discovery printks anyway
> >> > so this fits together nicely.
> >> >
> >> > This way the files would be off by default (assuming you don't boot with
> >> > sched_verbose) and can be created at runtime by enabling verbose. Multiple
> >> > changes could also be batched by disabling/makeing changes/re-enabling.
> >> >
> >> > It does not create a new API, uses one that is already there.
> >>
> >> The idea seems good, the implementation might need a bit of work :)
> >
> > More than the one comment below? Let me know.
> >
> >>
> >> > > If you really do not want these debugfs files, just disable debugfs from
> >> > > your system. That should be a better short-term solution, right?
> >> >
> >> > We do find these files useful at times for debugging issue and looking
> >> > at what's going on on the system.
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Or better yet, disable SCHED_DEBUG, why can't you do that?
> >> >
> >> > Same with this... useful information with (modulo issues like this)
> >> > small cost. There are also tuning knobs that are only available
> >> > with SCHED_DEBUG.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Phil
> >> >
> >> > ---------------
> >> >
> >> > sched/debug: Put sched/domains files under verbose flag
> >> >
> >> > The debug files under sched/domains can take a long time to regenerate,
> >> > especially when updates are done one at a time. Move these files under
> >> > the verbose debug flag. Allow changes to verbose to trigger generation
> >> > of the files. This lets a user batch the updates but still have the
> >> > information available. The detailed topology printk messages are also
> >> > under verbose.
> >> >
> >> > Signed-off-by: Phil Auld <pauld@...hat.com>
> >> > ---
> >> > kernel/sched/debug.c | 68 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> >> > 1 file changed, 66 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >> >
> >> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/debug.c b/kernel/sched/debug.c
> >> > index 1637b65ba07a..2eb51ee3ccab 100644
> >> > --- a/kernel/sched/debug.c
> >> > +++ b/kernel/sched/debug.c
> >> > @@ -280,6 +280,31 @@ static const struct file_operations sched_dynamic_fops = {
> >> >
> >> > __read_mostly bool sched_debug_verbose;
> >> >
> >> > +static ssize_t sched_verbose_write(struct file *filp, const char __user *ubuf,
> >> > + size_t cnt, loff_t *ppos);
> >> > +
> >> > +static int sched_verbose_show(struct seq_file *m, void *v)
> >> > +{
> >> > + if (sched_debug_verbose)
> >> > + seq_puts(m,"Y\n");
> >> > + else
> >> > + seq_puts(m,"N\n");
> >> > + return 0;
> >> > +}
> >> > +
> >> > +static int sched_verbose_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *filp)
> >> > +{
> >> > + return single_open(filp, sched_verbose_show, NULL);
> >> > +}
> >> > +
> >> > +static const struct file_operations sched_verbose_fops = {
> >> > + .open = sched_verbose_open,
> >> > + .write = sched_verbose_write,
> >> > + .read = seq_read,
> >> > + .llseek = seq_lseek,
> >> > + .release = seq_release,
> >> > +};
> >> > +
> >> > static const struct seq_operations sched_debug_sops;
> >> >
> >> > static int sched_debug_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *filp)
> >> > @@ -303,7 +328,7 @@ static __init int sched_init_debug(void)
> >> > debugfs_sched = debugfs_create_dir("sched", NULL);
> >> >
> >> > debugfs_create_file("features", 0644, debugfs_sched, NULL, &sched_feat_fops);
> >> > - debugfs_create_bool("verbose", 0644, debugfs_sched, &sched_debug_verbose);
> >> > + debugfs_create_file("verbose", 0644, debugfs_sched, NULL, &sched_verbose_fops);
> >> > #ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_DYNAMIC
> >> > debugfs_create_file("preempt", 0644, debugfs_sched, NULL, &sched_dynamic_fops);
> >> > #endif
> >> > @@ -402,15 +427,23 @@ void update_sched_domain_debugfs(void)
> >> > if (!debugfs_sched)
> >> > return;
> >> >
> >> > + if (!sched_debug_verbose)
> >> > + return;
> >> > +
> >> > if (!cpumask_available(sd_sysctl_cpus)) {
> >> > if (!alloc_cpumask_var(&sd_sysctl_cpus, GFP_KERNEL))
> >> > return;
> >> > cpumask_copy(sd_sysctl_cpus, cpu_possible_mask);
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > - if (!sd_dentry)
> >> > + if (!sd_dentry) {
> >> > sd_dentry = debugfs_create_dir("domains", debugfs_sched);
> >> >
> >> > + /* rebuild sd_sysclt_cpus if empty since it gets cleared below */
> >> > + if (cpumask_first(sd_sysctl_cpus) >= nr_cpu_ids)
> >> > + cpumask_copy(sd_sysctl_cpus, cpu_online_mask);
> >> > + }
> >> > +
> >> > for_each_cpu(cpu, sd_sysctl_cpus) {
> >> > struct sched_domain *sd;
> >> > struct dentry *d_cpu;
> >> > @@ -443,6 +476,37 @@ void dirty_sched_domain_sysctl(int cpu)
> >> >
> >> > #endif /* CONFIG_SMP */
> >> >
> >> > +static ssize_t sched_verbose_write(struct file *filp, const char __user *ubuf,
> >> > + size_t cnt, loff_t *ppos)
> >> > +{
> >> > + struct dentry *dentry = filp->f_path.dentry;
> >> > + bool orig = sched_debug_verbose;
> >> > + bool bv;
> >> > + int r;
> >> > +
> >> > + r = kstrtobool_from_user(ubuf, cnt, &bv);
> >> > + if (!r) {
> >> > + mutex_lock(&sched_domains_mutex);
> >> > + r = debugfs_file_get(dentry);
> >> > + if (unlikely(r))
> >> > + return r;
> >> > + sched_debug_verbose = bv;
> >> > + debugfs_file_put(dentry);
> >>
> >> Why the get/put of the debugfs dentry? for just this single value?
> >
> > That's what debugfs_file_write_bool() does, which is where I got that since
> > that's really what this is doing. I couldn't see a good way to make this
> > just call that.
>
> I think you can do it like below? Only lightly tested :)
>
That simplifies things. Thanks!
I'm testing a new version now but will switch to this method and see what
happens.
Cheers,
Phil
> cheers
>
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/debug.c b/kernel/sched/debug.c
> index 1637b65ba07a..bc96380cf336 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/debug.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/debug.c
> @@ -280,6 +279,42 @@ static const struct file_operations sched_dynamic_fops = {
>
> __read_mostly bool sched_debug_verbose;
>
> +#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> +static struct dentry *sd_dentry;
> +
> +static ssize_t sched_verbose_write(struct file *filp, const char __user *ubuf,
> + size_t cnt, loff_t *ppos)
> +{
> + ssize_t result;
> + bool orig;
> +
> + mutex_lock(&sched_domains_mutex);
> +
> + orig = sched_debug_verbose;
> + result = debugfs_write_file_bool(filp, ubuf, cnt, ppos);
> +
> + if (sched_debug_verbose && !orig)
> + update_sched_domain_debugfs();
> + else if (!sched_debug_verbose && orig) {
> + debugfs_remove(sd_dentry);
> + sd_dentry = NULL;
> + }
> +
> + mutex_unlock(&sched_domains_mutex);
> +
> + return result;
> +}
> +#else
> +#define sched_verbose_write debugfs_write_file_bool
> +#endif
> +
> +static const struct file_operations sched_verbose_fops = {
> + .read = debugfs_read_file_bool,
> + .write = sched_verbose_write,
> + .open = simple_open,
> + .llseek = default_llseek,
> +};
> +
> static const struct seq_operations sched_debug_sops;
>
> static int sched_debug_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *filp)
> @@ -303,7 +338,7 @@ static __init int sched_init_debug(void)
> debugfs_sched = debugfs_create_dir("sched", NULL);
>
> debugfs_create_file("features", 0644, debugfs_sched, NULL, &sched_feat_fops);
> - debugfs_create_bool("verbose", 0644, debugfs_sched, &sched_debug_verbose);
> + debugfs_create_file_unsafe("verbose", 0644, debugfs_sched, &sched_debug_verbose, &sched_verbose_fops);
> #ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_DYNAMIC
> debugfs_create_file("preempt", 0644, debugfs_sched, NULL, &sched_dynamic_fops);
> #endif
> @@ -345,7 +380,6 @@ late_initcall(sched_init_debug);
> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
>
> static cpumask_var_t sd_sysctl_cpus;
> -static struct dentry *sd_dentry;
>
> static int sd_flags_show(struct seq_file *m, void *v)
> {
> @@ -402,15 +436,23 @@ void update_sched_domain_debugfs(void)
> if (!debugfs_sched)
> return;
>
> + if (!sched_debug_verbose)
> + return;
> +
> if (!cpumask_available(sd_sysctl_cpus)) {
> if (!alloc_cpumask_var(&sd_sysctl_cpus, GFP_KERNEL))
> return;
> cpumask_copy(sd_sysctl_cpus, cpu_possible_mask);
> }
>
> - if (!sd_dentry)
> + if (!sd_dentry) {
> sd_dentry = debugfs_create_dir("domains", debugfs_sched);
>
> + /* rebuild sd_sysclt_cpus if empty since it gets cleared below */
> + if (cpumask_first(sd_sysctl_cpus) >= nr_cpu_ids)
> + cpumask_copy(sd_sysctl_cpus, cpu_online_mask);
> + }
> +
> for_each_cpu(cpu, sd_sysctl_cpus) {
> struct sched_domain *sd;
> struct dentry *d_cpu;
>
--
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