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Message-ID: <20221216111308.wckibotr5d3q6ree@pengutronix.de>
Date:   Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:13:08 +0100
From:   Uwe Kleine-König <u.kleine-koenig@...gutronix.de>
To:     Primoz Fiser <primoz.fiser@...ik.com>
Cc:     Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@...gutronix.de>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Shawn Guo <shawnguo@...nel.org>,
        Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@...gutronix.de>,
        upstream@...ts.phytec.de, Marco Felsch <m.felsch@...gutronix.de>,
        Oleksij Rempel <linux@...pel-privat.de>,
        NXP Linux Team <linux-imx@....com>,
        Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@...gutronix.de>,
        Fabio Estevam <festevam@...il.com>,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-i2c@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] i2c: imx: increase retries on arbitration loss

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 12:02:27PM +0100, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 11:41:08AM +0100, Primoz Fiser wrote:
> > Hi Marco,
> > 
> > On 16. 12. 22 10:45, Marco Felsch wrote:
> > > Hi Primoz,
> > > 
> > > On 22-12-16, Primoz Fiser wrote:
> > > > By default, retries value is set to 0 (no retries). Set retries to more
> > > > sensible value of 3 to allow i2c core to re-attempt transfer in case of
> > > > i2c arbitration loss (i2c-imx returns -EAGAIN errno is such case).
> > > 
> > > apart the fact that the number of retries vary a lot and so the client
> > > driver behaviour can vary a lot which is not good IMHO, why do you think
> > > that 3 is a sufficient number?
> > 
> > IMHO it is better than leaving it at 0 (no retries)?
> > 
> > Setting it to sensible value like 3 will at least attempt to make transfer
> > in case arbitration-loss occurs.
> > 
> > > 
> > > If an arbitration loss happen, why do you think that retrying it 3 times
> > > changes that?
> > 
> > I our case, setting retries to non-zero value solves issues with PMIC
> > shutdown on phyboard-mira which in some rare cases fails with "Failed to
> > shutdown (err =  -11)" (-EAGAIN).
> > 
> > To me it makes common sense retries is set to non-zero value especially for
> > such rare conditions/situations.
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/Ys1bw9zuIwWS+bqw@shikoro/

Also in the same thread there is the question about better setting it in
the i2c core if 3 instead of 0 is a good idea for the imx driver.

Best regards
Uwe

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