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Message-ID: <CAHS8izP9RAYuVFs+e7JSKJui4u=oA4smqaRDGG2jn_3ssKvi8A@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 04:02:12 -0800
From: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@...gle.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "mm: add nodes= arg to memory.reclaim"
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 1:54 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com> wrote:
>
> Andrew,
> I have noticed that the patch made it into Linus tree already. Can we
> please revert it because the semantic is not really clear and we should
> really not create yet another user API maintenance problem. I am
> proposing to revert the nodemask extension for now before we grow any
> upstream users. Deeper in the email thread are some proposals how to
> move forward with that.
There are proposals, many which have been rejected due to not
addressing the motivating use cases and others that have been rejected
by fellow maintainers, and some that are awaiting feedback. No, there
is no other clear-cut way forward for this use case right now. I have
found the merged approach by far the most agreeable so far.
> ---
> From 7c5285f1725d5abfcae5548ab0d73be9ceded2a1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 10:46:33 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH] Revert "mm: add nodes= arg to memory.reclaim"
>
> This reverts commit 12a5d3955227b0d7e04fb793ccceeb2a1dd275c5.
>
> Although it is recognized that a finer grained pro-active reclaim is
> something we need and want the semantic of this implementation is really
> ambiguous.
>
> From a follow up discussion it became clear that there are two essential
> usecases here. One is to use memory.reclaim to pro-actively reclaim
> memory and expectation is that the requested and reported amount of memory is
> uncharged from the memcg. Another usecase focuses on pro-active demotion
> when the memory is merely shuffled around to demotion targets while the
> overall charged memory stays unchanged.
>
> The current implementation considers demoted pages as reclaimed and that
> break both usecases.
I think you're making it sound like this specific patch broke both use
cases, and IMO that is not accurate. commit 3f1509c57b1b ("Revert
"mm/vmscan: never demote for memcg reclaim"") has been in the tree for
around 7 months now and that is the commit that enabled demotion in
memcg reclaim, and implicitly counted demoted pages as reclaimed in
memcg reclaim, which is the source of the ambiguity. Not the patch
that you are reverting here.
The irony I find with this revert is that this patch actually removes
the ambiguity and does not exacerbate it. Currently using
memory.reclaim _without_ the nodes= arg is ambiguous because demoted
pages count as reclaimed. On the other hand using memory.reclaim
_with_ the nodes= arg is completely unambiguous: the kernel will
demote-only from top tier nodes and reclaim-only from bottom tier
nodes.
> [1] has tried to address the reporting part but
> there are more issues with that summarized in [2] and follow up emails.
>
I am the one that put effort into resolving the ambiguity introduced
by commit 3f1509c57b1b ("Revert "mm/vmscan: never demote for memcg
reclaim"") and proposed [1]. Reverting this patch does nothing to
resolve ambiguity that it did not introduce.
> Let's revert the nodemask based extension of the memcg pro-active
> reclaim for now until we settle with a more robust semantic.
>
I do not think we should revert this. It enables a couple of important
use cases for Google:
1. Enables us to specifically trigger proactive reclaim in a memcg on
a memory tiered system by specifying only the lower tiered nodes using
the nodes= arg.
2. Enabled us to specifically trigger proactive demotion in a memcg on
a memory tiered system by specifying only the top tier nodes using the
nodes= arg.
Both use cases are broken with this revert, and no progress to resolve
the ambiguity is made with this revert.
I agree with Michal that there is ambiguity that has existed in the
kernel for about 7 months now and is introduced by commit 3f1509c57b1b
("Revert "mm/vmscan: never demote for memcg reclaim""), and I'm trying
to fix this ambiguity in [1]. I think we should move forward in fixing
the ambiguity through the review of the patch in [1] and not revert
patches that enable useful use-cases and did not introduce the
ambiguity.
> [1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20221206023406.3182800-1-almasrymina@google.com
Broken link. Actual link to my patch to fix the ambiguity:
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20221206023406.3182800-1-almasrymina@google.com/
> [2] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/Y5bsmpCyeryu3Zz1@dhcp22.suse.cz
> Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
> ---
> Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst | 15 +++---
> include/linux/swap.h | 3 +-
> mm/memcontrol.c | 67 +++++--------------------
> mm/vmscan.c | 4 +-
> 4 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 68 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
> index c8ae7c897f14..74cec76be9f2 100644
> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
> @@ -1245,13 +1245,17 @@ PAGE_SIZE multiple when read back.
> This is a simple interface to trigger memory reclaim in the
> target cgroup.
>
> - This file accepts a string which contains the number of bytes to
> - reclaim.
> + This file accepts a single key, the number of bytes to reclaim.
> + No nested keys are currently supported.
>
> Example::
>
> echo "1G" > memory.reclaim
>
> + The interface can be later extended with nested keys to
> + configure the reclaim behavior. For example, specify the
> + type of memory to reclaim from (anon, file, ..).
> +
> Please note that the kernel can over or under reclaim from
> the target cgroup. If less bytes are reclaimed than the
> specified amount, -EAGAIN is returned.
> @@ -1263,13 +1267,6 @@ PAGE_SIZE multiple when read back.
> This means that the networking layer will not adapt based on
> reclaim induced by memory.reclaim.
>
> - This file also allows the user to specify the nodes to reclaim from,
> - via the 'nodes=' key, for example::
> -
> - echo "1G nodes=0,1" > memory.reclaim
> -
> - The above instructs the kernel to reclaim memory from nodes 0,1.
> -
> memory.peak
> A read-only single value file which exists on non-root
> cgroups.
> diff --git a/include/linux/swap.h b/include/linux/swap.h
> index 2787b84eaf12..0ceed49516ad 100644
> --- a/include/linux/swap.h
> +++ b/include/linux/swap.h
> @@ -418,8 +418,7 @@ extern unsigned long try_to_free_pages(struct zonelist *zonelist, int order,
> extern unsigned long try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(struct mem_cgroup *memcg,
> unsigned long nr_pages,
> gfp_t gfp_mask,
> - unsigned int reclaim_options,
> - nodemask_t *nodemask);
> + unsigned int reclaim_options);
> extern unsigned long mem_cgroup_shrink_node(struct mem_cgroup *mem,
> gfp_t gfp_mask, bool noswap,
> pg_data_t *pgdat,
> diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
> index ab457f0394ab..73afff8062f9 100644
> --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> @@ -63,7 +63,6 @@
> #include <linux/resume_user_mode.h>
> #include <linux/psi.h>
> #include <linux/seq_buf.h>
> -#include <linux/parser.h>
> #include "internal.h"
> #include <net/sock.h>
> #include <net/ip.h>
> @@ -2393,8 +2392,7 @@ static unsigned long reclaim_high(struct mem_cgroup *memcg,
> psi_memstall_enter(&pflags);
> nr_reclaimed += try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(memcg, nr_pages,
> gfp_mask,
> - MEMCG_RECLAIM_MAY_SWAP,
> - NULL);
> + MEMCG_RECLAIM_MAY_SWAP);
> psi_memstall_leave(&pflags);
> } while ((memcg = parent_mem_cgroup(memcg)) &&
> !mem_cgroup_is_root(memcg));
> @@ -2685,8 +2683,7 @@ static int try_charge_memcg(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, gfp_t gfp_mask,
>
> psi_memstall_enter(&pflags);
> nr_reclaimed = try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(mem_over_limit, nr_pages,
> - gfp_mask, reclaim_options,
> - NULL);
> + gfp_mask, reclaim_options);
> psi_memstall_leave(&pflags);
>
> if (mem_cgroup_margin(mem_over_limit) >= nr_pages)
> @@ -3506,8 +3503,7 @@ static int mem_cgroup_resize_max(struct mem_cgroup *memcg,
> }
>
> if (!try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(memcg, 1, GFP_KERNEL,
> - memsw ? 0 : MEMCG_RECLAIM_MAY_SWAP,
> - NULL)) {
> + memsw ? 0 : MEMCG_RECLAIM_MAY_SWAP)) {
> ret = -EBUSY;
> break;
> }
> @@ -3618,8 +3614,7 @@ static int mem_cgroup_force_empty(struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
> return -EINTR;
>
> if (!try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(memcg, 1, GFP_KERNEL,
> - MEMCG_RECLAIM_MAY_SWAP,
> - NULL))
> + MEMCG_RECLAIM_MAY_SWAP))
> nr_retries--;
> }
>
> @@ -6429,8 +6424,7 @@ static ssize_t memory_high_write(struct kernfs_open_file *of,
> }
>
> reclaimed = try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(memcg, nr_pages - high,
> - GFP_KERNEL, MEMCG_RECLAIM_MAY_SWAP,
> - NULL);
> + GFP_KERNEL, MEMCG_RECLAIM_MAY_SWAP);
>
> if (!reclaimed && !nr_retries--)
> break;
> @@ -6479,8 +6473,7 @@ static ssize_t memory_max_write(struct kernfs_open_file *of,
>
> if (nr_reclaims) {
> if (!try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(memcg, nr_pages - max,
> - GFP_KERNEL, MEMCG_RECLAIM_MAY_SWAP,
> - NULL))
> + GFP_KERNEL, MEMCG_RECLAIM_MAY_SWAP))
> nr_reclaims--;
> continue;
> }
> @@ -6603,54 +6596,21 @@ static ssize_t memory_oom_group_write(struct kernfs_open_file *of,
> return nbytes;
> }
>
> -enum {
> - MEMORY_RECLAIM_NODES = 0,
> - MEMORY_RECLAIM_NULL,
> -};
> -
> -static const match_table_t if_tokens = {
> - { MEMORY_RECLAIM_NODES, "nodes=%s" },
> - { MEMORY_RECLAIM_NULL, NULL },
> -};
> -
> static ssize_t memory_reclaim(struct kernfs_open_file *of, char *buf,
> size_t nbytes, loff_t off)
> {
> struct mem_cgroup *memcg = mem_cgroup_from_css(of_css(of));
> unsigned int nr_retries = MAX_RECLAIM_RETRIES;
> unsigned long nr_to_reclaim, nr_reclaimed = 0;
> - unsigned int reclaim_options = MEMCG_RECLAIM_MAY_SWAP |
> - MEMCG_RECLAIM_PROACTIVE;
> - char *old_buf, *start;
> - substring_t args[MAX_OPT_ARGS];
> - int token;
> - char value[256];
> - nodemask_t nodemask = NODE_MASK_ALL;
> -
> - buf = strstrip(buf);
> -
> - old_buf = buf;
> - nr_to_reclaim = memparse(buf, &buf) / PAGE_SIZE;
> - if (buf == old_buf)
> - return -EINVAL;
> + unsigned int reclaim_options;
> + int err;
>
> buf = strstrip(buf);
> + err = page_counter_memparse(buf, "", &nr_to_reclaim);
> + if (err)
> + return err;
>
> - while ((start = strsep(&buf, " ")) != NULL) {
> - if (!strlen(start))
> - continue;
> - token = match_token(start, if_tokens, args);
> - match_strlcpy(value, args, sizeof(value));
> - switch (token) {
> - case MEMORY_RECLAIM_NODES:
> - if (nodelist_parse(value, nodemask) < 0)
> - return -EINVAL;
> - break;
> - default:
> - return -EINVAL;
> - }
> - }
> -
> + reclaim_options = MEMCG_RECLAIM_MAY_SWAP | MEMCG_RECLAIM_PROACTIVE;
> while (nr_reclaimed < nr_to_reclaim) {
> unsigned long reclaimed;
>
> @@ -6667,8 +6627,7 @@ static ssize_t memory_reclaim(struct kernfs_open_file *of, char *buf,
>
> reclaimed = try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(memcg,
> nr_to_reclaim - nr_reclaimed,
> - GFP_KERNEL, reclaim_options,
> - &nodemask);
> + GFP_KERNEL, reclaim_options);
>
> if (!reclaimed && !nr_retries--)
> return -EAGAIN;
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index aba991c505f1..546540bc770a 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -6757,8 +6757,7 @@ unsigned long mem_cgroup_shrink_node(struct mem_cgroup *memcg,
> unsigned long try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(struct mem_cgroup *memcg,
> unsigned long nr_pages,
> gfp_t gfp_mask,
> - unsigned int reclaim_options,
> - nodemask_t *nodemask)
> + unsigned int reclaim_options)
> {
> unsigned long nr_reclaimed;
> unsigned int noreclaim_flag;
> @@ -6773,7 +6772,6 @@ unsigned long try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(struct mem_cgroup *memcg,
> .may_unmap = 1,
> .may_swap = !!(reclaim_options & MEMCG_RECLAIM_MAY_SWAP),
> .proactive = !!(reclaim_options & MEMCG_RECLAIM_PROACTIVE),
> - .nodemask = nodemask,
> };
> /*
> * Traverse the ZONELIST_FALLBACK zonelist of the current node to put
> --
> 2.30.2
>
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
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