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Date:   Sat, 31 Dec 2022 20:33:59 -0800
From:   "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:     "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
Cc:     pbonzini@...hat.com, ebiggers@...nel.org, x86@...nel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, qemu-devel@...gnu.org,
        ardb@...nel.org, kraxel@...hat.com, philmd@...aro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH qemu] x86: don't let decompressed kernel image clobber
 setup_data



On 12/31/22 10:22, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 03:24:32PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 02:51:28PM +0100, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
>>> That failure is unrelated to the ident mapping issue Peter and
>>> I discussed. The original failure is described in the commit message:
>>> decompression clobbers the data, so sd->next points to garbage.
>>
>> Right
> 
> So with that understanding confirmed, I'm confused at your surprise that
> hpa's unrelated fix to the different issue didn't fix this issue.
> 

If decompression does clobber the data, then we *also* need to figure 
out why that is. There are basically three possibilities:

1. If physical KASLR is NOT used:

	a. The boot loader doesn't honor the kernel safe area properly;
	b. Somewhere in the process a bug in the calculation of the
	   kernel safe area has crept in.

2. If physical KASLR IS used:

	The decompressor doesn't correctly keep track of nor relocate
	all the keep-out zones before picking a target address.

One is a bootloader bug, two is a kernel bug. My guess is (2) is the 
culprit, but (1b) should be checked, too.

	-hpa

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