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Message-ID: <20230110070144.GG10289@lst.de>
Date:   Tue, 10 Jan 2023 08:01:44 +0100
From:   Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
To:     Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
Cc:     Prabhakar <prabhakar.csengg@...il.com>,
        "Conor.Dooley" <conor.dooley@...rochip.com>,
        Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@...der.be>,
        Heiko Stübner <heiko@...ech.de>,
        guoren <guoren@...nel.org>,
        Andrew Jones <ajones@...tanamicro.com>,
        Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@...ive.com>,
        Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@...belt.com>,
        Albert Ou <aou@...s.berkeley.edu>,
        "open list:RISC-V ARCHITECTURE" <linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org>,
        open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
        Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Lad, Prabhakar" <prabhakar.mahadev-lad.rj@...renesas.com>,
        Philipp Tomsich <philipp.tomsich@...ll.eu>,
        Nathan Chancellor <nathan@...nel.org>,
        Atish Patra <atishp@...osinc.com>,
        Anup Patel <apatel@...tanamicro.com>,
        Tsukasa OI <research_trasio@....a4lg.com>,
        Jisheng Zhang <jszhang@...nel.org>,
        Mayuresh Chitale <mchitale@...tanamicro.com>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 1/6] riscv: mm: dma-noncoherent: Switch using
 function pointers for cache management

On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 01:59:12PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> I had another look at the arm64 side, which (like the zicbom
> variant) uses 'clean' on dma_sync_single_for_device(DMA_FROM_DEVICE),
> as that has changed not that long ago, see
> 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=c50f11c6196f45c92ca48b16a5071615d4ae0572

which IIRC has been reverted recently.

> I'm still not sure what the correct set of operations has
> to be, but nothing in that patch description sounds ISA
> or even microarchitecture specific.

Nothing is ISA specific, and the only micro architecture related thing
is if the specific core can speculate memory accesses.  See the table
in arch/arc/mm/dma.c for details.

And as commented on the arm64 patch I really hate architectures getting
creative here, as I'd much prefer to move the choice of primitives to
the core DMA code and just provide helpers to invalidate/writeback/
writeback+invalidate from the architectures eventually.

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