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Message-ID: <20230111064120.GA18581@lst.de>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 07:41:20 +0100
From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
To: Hector Martin <marcan@...can.st>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>, Keith Busch <kbusch@...nel.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@...com>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@...mberg.me>,
Eric Curtin <ecurtin@...hat.com>, Janne Grunau <j@...nau.net>,
Sven Peter <sven@...npeter.dev>,
Alyssa Rosenzweig <alyssa@...enzweig.io>,
asahi@...ts.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
linux-nvme@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] nvme-apple: Do not try to shut down the controller
twice
On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 02:44:42PM +0900, Hector Martin wrote:
> The higher-level resume path can't do a disable since the firmware isn't
> up at that point, and the subsequent reset (which is shared with other
> conditions that cause a reset) is what brings the firmware back up. So
> the disable has to either happen in the suspend path, or in the shared
> reset path after we know the firmware is running.
Ok, that's the weird part where nvme-apply really isn't nvme at all.
Because for actual NVMe devices the register access must work all the
time.
> That's only if you issue a disable *in lieu* of a shutdown (and in fact
> if you do that on Apple controllers under some conditions, they crash).
> Issuing a disable *after* a shutdown is required by the NVMe spec if you
> want to use the controller again (and should basically do nothing at
> that point, since the controller is already cleanly shut down, but it is
> required to set EN to 0 such that the subsequent 0->1 transition
> actually kickstarts the controller again). If you don't do that, the
> controller never leaves the shutdown state (how would it know?).
Yes. Although I would not call this a disable after shutdown, but a
disable (or rather reset) before using it again.
> To be clear, the sequence I was attempting to describe (which is what we
> were doing before the patch that regressed this) was:
>
> (on sleep)
> - NVMe shutdown
> - NVMe disable
> - Firmware shutdown
>
> After the firmware shutdown, we can't do anything with NVMe again until
> we start firmware back up, which requires going through the reset flow.
>
> Right now we're doing:
>
> (on sleep)
> - NVMe shutdown
> - Firmware shutdown
> (wakeup)
> - Oops, NVMe is enabled, let's disable it! (times out due to FW being
> down but failure isn't propagated)
> - Firmware startup
> - NVMe enable (thinks it succeeds but actually the controller is still
> in the shutdown state since it was never disabled and this persists
> across the firmware cycle!)
> - I/O (never completes)
Yes, so I guess due to the weird firmware issues doing the disable
after shutdown instead of before setting up might be the right
thing for nvme-apple, unlike real NVMe. So I guess we need to do
that in the driver, and add a big fat comment explaining why.
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