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Date:   Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:28:02 -0800
From:   Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>
To:     Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
Cc:     Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: Document that CONFIG_BOOT_PRINTK_DELAY required
 for boot_delay=



On 1/23/23 12:44, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 06:18:26PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 12:04:40PM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>> From: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>
>>>
>>> Document the fact that CONFIG_BOOT_PRINTK_DELAY must be enabled for the
>>> "boot_delay" kernel parameter to work.  Also mention that "lpj=" may be
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>
>>> ---
>>>  Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +++--
>>>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> index 6cfa6e3996cf..b0b40b6a765c 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> @@ -480,8 +480,9 @@
>>>  			See Documentation/block/cmdline-partition.rst
>>>  
>>>  	boot_delay=	Milliseconds to delay each printk during boot.
>>> -			Values larger than 10 seconds (10000) are changed to
>>> -			no delay (0).
>>> +			Enable CONFIG_BOOT_PRINTK_DELAY and also specify
>>> +			"lpj=".  Boot_delay values larger than 10 seconds
>>> +			(10000) are changed to no delay (0).
>>
>> That's counterintuitive.  I'd understand clamping it to 10 seconds,
>> but not setting it to zero.
> 
> I'm not opposed to setting it to 10 sec instead of 0, but that came
> from bfe8df3d314b ("slow down printk during boot"); added Randy in
> case he wants to comment.

I'm not opposed to a patch that clamps the max boot_delay to 10 seconds.
I expect that my thinking in 2007 was that any larger value was just some
random/garbage value so it should be ignored.

>> Also, there are two ways of reading this.  One is that by specifying
>> boot_delay=, lpj= is set to a sane value.  The other (intended?) is
>> that in order to use this option, you must also specify lpj=.

You probably should specify lpj= (e.g., from some previous boot log),
as indicated in the BOOT_PRINTK_DELAY Kconfig help text in
lib/Kconfig.debug.

> Maybe this is better?
> 
>  	boot_delay=	Milliseconds to delay each printk during boot.
> -			Values larger than 10 seconds (10000) are changed to
> -			no delay (0).
> +			Only works if CONFIG_BOOT_PRINTK_DELAY is enabled,
> +			and you may also have to specify "lpj=".  Boot_delay
> +			values larger than 10 seconds (10000) are changed
> +			to no delay (0).
>  			Format: integer

That's fine with me.

-- 
~Randy

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