linux-kernel - RE: [PATCH 1/2] PCI/MSI: Cache the MSIX table size

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Message-ID: <DM8PR11MB5750F5873EA182A28ABC7701E7CE9@DM8PR11MB5750.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Date:   Wed, 25 Jan 2023 12:33:04 +0000
From:   "Reshetova, Elena" <elena.reshetova@...el.com>
To:     Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>
CC:     Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        "linux-pci@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>,
        "darwi@...utronix.de" <darwi@...utronix.de>,
        "kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Mika Westerberg" <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com>,
        "stable@...r.kernel.org" <stable@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/2] PCI/MSI: Cache the MSIX table size


> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 01:52:37PM +0200, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> > Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org> writes:
> >
> > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 07:06:32PM +0200, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> > >> A malicious device can change its MSIX table size between the table
> > >> ioremap() and subsequent accesses, resulting in a kernel page fault in
> > >> pci_write_msg_msix().
> > >>
> > >> To avoid this, cache the table size observed at the moment of table
> > >> ioremap() and use the cached value. This, however, does not help drivers
> > >> that peek at the PCIE_MSIX_FLAGS register directly.
> > >>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>
> > >> Reviewed-by: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com>
> > >> Cc: stable@...r.kernel.org
> > >> ---
> > >>  drivers/pci/msi/api.c | 7 ++++++-
> > >>  drivers/pci/msi/msi.c | 2 +-
> > >>  include/linux/pci.h   | 1 +
> > >>  3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > I'm not security expert here, but not sure that this protects from anything.
> > > 1. Kernel relies on working and not-malicious HW. There are gazillion ways
> > > to cause crashes other than changing MSI-X.
> >
> > This particular bug was preventing our fuzzing from going deeper into
> > the code and reaching some more of the aforementioned gazillion bugs.
> 
> As per our documentation, if you are "fixing" things based on a tool you
> have, you HAVE TO document that in the changelog.  Otherwise we just get
> to reject the patch flat out (hint, this has caused more than one group
> of developers to just be flat out banned for ignoring...)
> 
> And what kind of tool is now fuzzing PCI config accesses with
> "malicious" devices?  Again, this is NOT something that Linux currently
> even attempts to want to protect itself against.  If you are wanting to
> change that model, wonderful, let's discuss that and work on defining
> the scope of your new security threat model and go from there.  Don't
> throw random patches at us and expect us to think they are even valid.
> 
> Again, Linux trusts PCI devices.  If you don't want to trust PCI
> devices, we already have a framework in place to prevent that which is
> independant of this area of the PCI code.  Use that, or let's discuss
> why that is insufficient.

Sure, I have started a new thread on this in 
https://lore.kernel.org/all/DM8PR11MB57505481B2FE79C3D56C9201E7CE9@DM8PR11MB5750.namprd11.prod.outlook.com/

I think it is much bigger topic to discuss, so better be handled separately. 

Best Regards,
Elena.