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Message-ID: <601fc35a8cc2167e53e45c636fccb2d899fd7c50.camel@redhat.com>
Date:   Fri, 27 Jan 2023 05:12:13 -0300
From:   Leonardo Brás <leobras@...hat.com>
To:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>,
        Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@...ux.dev>
Cc:     Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@...hat.com>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>,
        Muchun Song <muchun.song@...ux.dev>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        cgroups@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbecker@...e.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Introduce memcg_stock_pcp remote draining

On Fri, 2023-01-27 at 04:22 -0300, Leonardo Brás wrote:
> On Fri, 2023-01-27 at 08:11 +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > [Cc Frederic]
> > 
> > On Thu 26-01-23 15:12:35, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 08:41:34AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > > Essentially each cpu will try to grab the remains of the memory quota
> > > > > and move it locally. I wonder in such circumstances if we need to disable the pcp-caching
> > > > > on per-cgroup basis.
> > > > 
> > > > I think it would be more than sufficient to disable pcp charging on an
> > > > isolated cpu.
> > > 
> > > It might have significant performance consequences.
> > 
> > Is it really significant?
> > 
> > > I'd rather opt out of stock draining for isolated cpus: it might slightly reduce
> > > the accuracy of memory limits and slightly increase the memory footprint (all
> > > those dying memcgs...), but the impact will be limited. Actually it is limited
> > > by the number of cpus.
> > 
> > Hmm, OK, I have misunderstood your proposal. Yes, the overal pcp charges
> > potentially left behind should be small and that shouldn't really be a
> > concern for memcg oom situations (unless the limit is very small and
> > workloads on isolated cpus using small hard limits is way beyond my
> > imagination).
> > 
> > My first thought was that those charges could be left behind without any
> > upper bound but in reality sooner or later something should be running
> > on those cpus and if the memcg is gone the pcp cache would get refilled
> > and old charges gone.
> > 
> > So yes, this is actually a better and even simpler solution. All we need
> > is something like this
> > diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > index ab457f0394ab..13b84bbd70ba 100644
> > --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> > +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > @@ -2344,6 +2344,9 @@ static void drain_all_stock(struct mem_cgroup *root_memcg)
> >  		struct mem_cgroup *memcg;
> >  		bool flush = false;
> >  
> > +		if (cpu_is_isolated(cpu))
> > +			continue;
> > +
> >  		rcu_read_lock();
> >  		memcg = stock->cached;
> >  		if (memcg && stock->nr_pages &&
> > 
> > There is no such cpu_is_isolated() AFAICS so we would need a help from
> > NOHZ and cpuisol people to create one for us. Frederic, would such an
> > abstraction make any sense from your POV?
> 
> 
> IIUC, 'if (cpu_is_isolated())' would be instead:
> 
> if (!housekeeping_cpu(smp_processor_id(), HK_TYPE_DOMAIN) ||
> !housekeeping_cpu(smp_processor_id(), HK_TYPE_WQ)

oh, sorry 's/smp_processor_id()/cpu/' here:

if(!housekeeping_cpu(cpu, HK_TYPE_DOMAIN) || !housekeeping_cpu(cpu, HK_TYPE_WQ))


Not sure why I added smp_processor_id() instead of cpu. I think I need some
sleep. :)

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