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Message-ID: <20230127130034.GE3527@blackbody.suse.cz>
Date:   Fri, 27 Jan 2023 14:00:34 +0100
From:   Michal Koutný <mkoutny@...e.com>
To:     Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:     Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, Intel-gfx@...ts.freedesktop.org,
        dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org, cgroups@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Zefan Li <lizefan.x@...edance.com>,
        Dave Airlie <airlied@...hat.com>,
        Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@...ll.ch>,
        Rob Clark <robdclark@...omium.org>,
        Stéphane Marchesin <marcheu@...omium.org>,
        "T . J . Mercier" <tjmercier@...gle.com>, Kenny.Ho@....com,
        Christian König <christian.koenig@....com>,
        Brian Welty <brian.welty@...el.com>,
        Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 00/12] DRM scheduling cgroup controller

On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 11:40:58AM +0000, Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> The main point is, should someone prove me wrong and come up a smarter way
> at some point in the future, then "drm.weight" as an ABI remains compatible
> and the improvement can happen completely under the hood. In the mean time
> users get external control, and _some_ ability to improve the user
> experience with the scenarios such as I described yesterday.

I'm on board now.

(I've done a mental switch of likening this rather to existing IO
control (higher variance of quanta size, worse preemption, limited
effect) than CPU control.)


> Cgroup tree hierarchy modifications being the reason for not converging can
> also happen, but I thought I can hand wave that as not a realistic scenario.
> Perhaps I am not imaginative enough?

My suggestion: simply skip offlined drmcgs instead of restarting whole
iteration. (A respawning cgroup-wrapped job or intentionally adverse
respawner could in my imagination cause that.)

> Under or over-accounting for migrating tasks I don't think can happen since
> I am explicitly handling that.

I'll reply to the patch for better context...

Regards,
Michal

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