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Date:   Tue, 31 Jan 2023 11:16:19 +0800
From:   Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To:     Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@...hat.com>
Cc:     mst@...hat.com, leiyang@...hat.com,
        Laurent Vivier <lvivier@...hat.com>, sgarzare@...hat.com,
        Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@...el.com>,
        virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org, si-wei.liu@...cle.com,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, lulu@...hat.com,
        Gautam Dawar <gdawar@...inx.com>, alvaro.karsz@...id-run.com,
        "Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)" 
        <longpeng2@...wei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] vringh: fetch used_idx from vring at vringh_init_iotlb

On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 12:39 AM Eugenio Perez Martin
<eperezma@...hat.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 7:01 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 4:11 PM Eugenio Perez Martin
> > <eperezma@...hat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 4:20 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 12:44 AM Eugenio Pérez <eperezma@...hat.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Starting from an used_idx different than 0 is needed in use cases like
> > > > > virtual machine migration.  Not doing so and letting the caller set an
> > > > > avail idx different than 0 causes destination device to try to use old
> > > > > buffers that source driver already recover and are not available
> > > > > anymore.
> > > > >
> > > > > While callers like vdpa_sim set avail_idx directly it does not set
> > > > > used_idx.  Instead of let the caller do the assignment, fetch it from
> > > > > the guest at initialization like vhost-kernel do.
> > > > >
> > > > > To perform the same at vring_kernel_init and vring_user_init is left for
> > > > > the future.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Eugenio Pérez <eperezma@...hat.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  drivers/vhost/vringh.c | 25 +++++++++++++++++++++++--
> > > > >  1 file changed, 23 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/vhost/vringh.c b/drivers/vhost/vringh.c
> > > > > index 33eb941fcf15..0eed825197f2 100644
> > > > > --- a/drivers/vhost/vringh.c
> > > > > +++ b/drivers/vhost/vringh.c
> > > > > @@ -1301,6 +1301,17 @@ static inline int putused_iotlb(const struct vringh *vrh,
> > > > >         return 0;
> > > > >  }
> > > > >
> > > > > +/**
> > > > > + * vringh_update_used_idx - fetch used idx from driver's used split vring
> > > > > + * @vrh: The vring.
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * Returns -errno or 0.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > +static inline int vringh_update_used_idx(struct vringh *vrh)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +       return getu16_iotlb(vrh, &vrh->last_used_idx, &vrh->vring.used->idx);
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +
> > > > >  /**
> > > > >   * vringh_init_iotlb - initialize a vringh for a ring with IOTLB.
> > > > >   * @vrh: the vringh to initialize.
> > > > > @@ -1319,8 +1330,18 @@ int vringh_init_iotlb(struct vringh *vrh, u64 features,
> > > > >                       struct vring_avail *avail,
> > > > >                       struct vring_used *used)
> > > > >  {
> > > >
> > > > While at this, I wonder if it's better to have a dedicated parameter
> > > > for last_avail_idx?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I also had that thought. To directly assign last_avail_idx is not a
> > > specially elegant API IMO.
> > >
> > > Maybe expose a way to fetch used_idx from device vring and pass
> > > used_idx as parameter too?
> >
> > If I was not wrong, we can start from last_avail_idx, for used_idx it
> > is only needed for inflight descriptors which might require other
> > APIs?
> >
> > (All the current vDPA user of vringh is doing in order processing)
> >
>
> That was actually my first attempt and it works equally well for the
> moment, but it diverges from vhost-kernel behavior for little benefit.
>
> To assign both values at set_vring_base mean that if vDPA introduces
> an (hypothetical) VHOST_VDPA_F_INFLIGHT backend feature in the future,
> the initialization process would vary a lot:
> * Without that feature, the used_idx starts with 0, and the avail one
> is 0 or whatever value the user set with vring_set_base.
> * With that feature, the device will read guest's used_idx as
> vhost-kernel? We would enable a new ioctl to set it, or expand
> set_base to include used_idx, effectively diverting from vhost-kernel?

Adding Longpeng who is looking at this.

We can leave this to the caller to decide.

Btw, a question, at which case the device used index does not equal to
the used index in the vring when the device is suspended? I think the
correct way is to flush the pending used indexes before suspending.
Otherwise we need an API to get pending used indices?

>
> To me the wisest option is to move this with vhost-kernel. Maybe we
> need to add a feature bit to know that the hypervisor can trust the
> device will do "the right thing" (VHOST_VDPA_F_FETCH_USED_AT_ENABLE?),
> but we should keep it orthogonal to inflight descriptor migration in
> my opinion.

I think we need to understand if there are any other possible use
cases for setting used idx other than inflight stuff.

>
> Having said that, I'm totally ok to do it otherwise (or to expand the
> patch message if needed).

I tend to do that in another series (not mix with the fixes).

>
> > >
> > > > > -       return vringh_init_kern(vrh, features, num, weak_barriers,
> > > > > -                               desc, avail, used);
> > > > > +       int r = vringh_init_kern(vrh, features, num, weak_barriers, desc,
> > > > > +                                avail, used);
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       if (r != 0)
> > > > > +               return r;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       /* Consider the ring not initialized */
> > > > > +       if ((void *)desc == used)
> > > > > +               return 0;
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand when we can get this (actually it should be a bug
> > > > of the caller).
> > > >
> > >
> > > You can see it in vdpasim_vq_reset.
> > >
> > > Note that to consider desc == 0 to be an uninitialized ring is a bug
> > > IMO. QEMU considers it that way also, but the standard does not forbid
> > > any ring to be at address 0. Especially if we use vIOMMU.
> > >
> > > So I think the best way to know if we can use the vringh is either
> > > this way, or provide an explicit "initialized" boolean attribute.
> > > Maybe a new "bool is_initialized(vrh)" is enough, if we don't want to
> > > add new attributes.
> >
> > I wonder if we can avoid this in the simulator level instead of the
> > vringh (anyhow it only exposes a vringh_init_xxx() helper now).
> >
>
> In my opinion that is a mistake if other drivers will use it to
> implement the emulated control virtqueue. And it requires more
> changes. But it is doable for sure.

The problem is, there's no reset API in vringh, that's why you need to
do if ((void *)desc == used) which depends on behaviour of the vringh
user.

So I think we should either:

1) move that check in vdpa_sim (since it's not guaranteed that all the
vringh users will make desc equal to used during reset)

or

2) introduce a vringh_reset_xxx()

1) seems a good step for -stable.

Thanks

>
> Thanks!
>

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