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Message-ID: <7eef4b0ce1904f30c02b9e89aa6732d32bb5593f.camel@linux.ibm.com>
Date:   Mon, 30 Jan 2023 22:25:59 -0500
From:   James Bottomley <jejb@...ux.ibm.com>
To:     Yu Kuai <yukuai1@...weicloud.com>,
        Zhong Jinghua <zhongjinghua@...wei.com>,
        gregkh@...uxfoundation.org, martin.petersen@...cle.com,
        hare@...e.de, bvanassche@....org, emilne@...hat.com
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org,
        yi.zhang@...wei.com, "yukuai (C)" <yukuai3@...wei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH-next v2 2/2] scsi: fix iscsi rescan fails to create
 block device

On Tue, 2023-01-31 at 09:43 +0800, Yu Kuai wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 在 2023/01/30 21:17, James Bottomley 写道:
> > On Mon, 2023-01-30 at 11:46 +0800, Yu Kuai wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > 在 2023/01/30 11:29, James Bottomley 写道:
> > > > On Mon, 2023-01-30 at 11:07 +0800, Yu Kuai wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 在 2023/01/30 1:30, James Bottomley 写道:
> > > > > > On Sat, 2023-01-28 at 17:41 +0800, Zhong Jinghua wrote:
> > > > > > > This error will cause a warning:
> > > > > > > kobject_add_internal failed for block (error: -2 parent:
> > > > > > > 1:0:0:1). In the lower version (such as 5.10), there is
> > > > > > > no corresponding error handling, continuing to go down
> > > > > > > will trigger a kernel panic, so cc stable.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is this is important point and what you're saying is that
> > > > > > this only panics on kernels before 5.10 or so because after
> > > > > > that it's correctly failed by block device error handling
> > > > > > so there's nothing to fix in later kernels?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In that case, isn't the correct fix to look at backporting
> > > > > > the block device error handling:
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is the last commit that support error handling, and
> > > > > there are many relied patches, and there are lots of refactor
> > > > > in block layer. It's not a good idea to backport error
> > > > > handling to lower version. Althrough error handling can
> > > > > prevent kernel crash in this case, I still think it make
> > > > > sense to make sure kobject is deleted in order, parent should
> > > > > not be deleted before child.
> > > > 
> > > > Well, look, you've created a very artificial situation where a
> > > > create closely followed by a delete of the underlying sdev
> > > > races with the create of the block gendisk devices of sd that
> > > > bind asynchronously to the created sdev.  The asynchronous
> > > > nature of the bind gives the elongated race window so the only
> > > > real fix is some sort of check that the sdev is still viable by
> > > > the time the bind occurs ... probably in sd_probe(), say a
> > > > scsi_device_get of sdp at the top which would ensure viability
> > > > of the sdev for the entire bind or fail the probe if the sdev
> > > > can't be got.
> > > 
> > > Sorry, I don't follow here. 😟
> > 
> > In the current kernel the race is mitigated because add_device
> > fails due to the parent being torn down.  That parent is the sdev-
> > >gendev so it seems we can detect this in the probe by looking at
> > the sdev->gendev state, which scsi_device_get() will do.
> > 
> > > I agree this is a very artificial situation, however I can't tell
> > > our tester not to test this way...
> > > 
> > > The problem is that kobject session is deleted and then
> > > sd_probe() tries to create a new kobject under
> > > hostx/sessionx/x:x:x:x/. I don't see how scsi_device_get() can
> > > prevent that, it only get a kobject reference and can prevent
> > > kobject to be released, however, kobject_del() can still be done.
> > 
> > So your contention is there's no way that we could make
> > scsi_device_get see the kernfs deactivation?  I would have thought
> > checking sdev->sdev_gendev.kobj.sd.active would give that ...
> > although the check would have to be via an API since
> > KN_DEACTIVATED_BIAS is internal.
> 
> I'm still not sure if such checking is enough.

It's the same check as causes the block device_add() to fail in
upstream which, so far I believe, you've failed to trigger an oops on.
The problem is this doesn't reproduce upstream and say you need
something simple to backport to stable kernels rather than trying to
backport the device_add() error handling.  The proposal doesn't
completely close the race windows but I think it narrows it to the
point where the add/remove race is almost impossible to trigger.

> session1/target1:0:0/1:0:0:0/block
> 
> 1) t1 is deleting target, and t1 already set 1:0:0:0 to SDEV_CANCEL,
> and 1:0:0:0 is not deleted yet.
> 2) t2 is deleting session1, 1:0:0:0 state is SDEV_CACEL, so 1:0:0:0
> is skipped, and session1 is deleted before 1:0:0:0, which will cause
> 1:0:0:0 to be not active.
> 3) t3 create block, it can happen because 1:0:0:0 is still not
> deleted, and later kobject_add() will found 1:0:0:0 is not active and
> hence faild.
> 
> The problem is that deleting parent kobject will cause child kobject
> not to be active, and in 3) device_lock is not hold for parents,
> hence just checking if this scsi_device is active is not enough, we
> have to make sure parents won't be deleted concurrently, for example,
> a litter adjustment for above procedures:
> 
> 1) ...(the same)
> 2) t3 create block, it check kobject state is still active
> 3) t2 delete session1 ...(the same), 1:0:0:0 is not active anymore.
> 4) t3 continue to create block undre 1:0:0:0, which will fail.
> 
> By the way, I think such problem exist because scsi_device state is
> SDEV_CANCEL doesn't mean that the device is deleted, simply skip such
> device while removing session is not right.
> 
> Do you found other problems if we make sure that kobject is deleted
> in order?

Given there's nothing to fix in upstream, coming up with elaborate
ordering constraints on kobjects isn't going to pass muster for
backporting to stable.

James

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