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Date:   Wed, 08 Feb 2023 21:46:30 +0100
From:   Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
To:     Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        kernel test robot <oliver.sang@...el.com>,
        Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@...dia.com>
Cc:     oe-lkp@...ts.linux.dev, lkp@...el.com,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>,
        Michael Walle <michael@...le.cc>,
        Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
        Hans de Goede <hdegoede@...hat.com>,
        Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@...g-engineering.com>,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
        Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
        Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>,
        Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@....com>,
        Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@...il.com>,
        Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@...ux.dev>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: mm, slab/slub: Ensure kmem_cache_alloc_bulk() is available early

On Wed, Feb 08 2023 at 10:15, Vlastimil Babka wrote:

Cc+ Willy

> On 2/7/23 19:20, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 07 2023 at 15:47, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>> From 340d7c7b99f3e67780f6dec480ed1d27e6f325eb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>>> From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>
>>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2023 15:34:53 +0100
>>> Subject: [PATCH] mm, slab/slub: remove notes that bulk alloc/free needs
>>>  interrupts enabled
>>>
>>> The slab functions kmem_cache_[alloc|free]_bulk() have been documented
>>> as requiring interrupts to be enabled, since their addition in 2015.
>>> It's unclear whether that was a fundamental restriction, or an attempt
>>> to save some cpu cycles by not having to save and restore the irq
>>> flags.
>> 
>> I don't think so. The restriction is rather meant to avoid huge
>> allocations in atomic context which causes latencies and also might
>> deplete the atomic reserves.
>
> Fair enough.
>
>> So I rather avoid that and enforce !ATOMIC mode despite the
>> local_irq_save/restore() change which is really only to accomodate with
>> early boot.
>
> We could add some warning then? People might use the bulk alloc unknowingly
> again e.g. via maple tree. GFP_KERNEL would warn through the existing
> warning, but e.g. GFP_ATOMIC currently not.

Correct.

> Some maple tree users could use its preallocation instead outside of the
> atomic context, when possible.

Right.

The issue is that there might be maple_tree users which depend on
GFP_ATOMIC, but call in from interrupt enabled context, which is
legitimate today.

Willy might have some insight on that.

Thanks,

        tglx

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